Finally read ‘Spare’

Callistemon21

^Travel company On The Beach says it’s found over 100 discarded copies of the book this summer^.

Oh no, we could have picked up a free copy SueDonim ☹

I don't suppose it bothers the publishers what happens to the book once you've dished out the cash for it.

Travel company On The Beach says it’s found over 100 discarded copies of the book this summer.

Oh no, we could have picked up a free copy SueDonim ☹

welbeck

it strokes his victimhood; harold beaten by william, the conqueror !

Not all Harolds were victims.

Some fought against Kaiser Bill - and won 🙂

I haven't read it but I did enjoy this video.

youtu.be/6MqDvdQX5oM

I haven’t read the book and am unlikely to but this made me laugh. nypost.com/2023/07/21/prince-harrys-memoir-spare-considered-the-most-discarded-book-this-summer-report/

it strokes his victimhood; harold beaten by william, the conqueror !

Yes, William calls Harry Harold, and Harry calls William Willy.

And why does he refer to himself as Harold?
Really?

Did he proof-read it?

Prompted by this thread, I had a look at the extracts on Amazon. It’s written in a tabloid newspaper style, with very short sentences in case readers aren’t very proficient. And why does he refer to himself as Harold? His name is Henry. I didn’t feel any desire to read more.

Those children are not paraded , who would keep children away from watching a football match, tennis match, the coronation of their grandfather

I think any 10 year old who sits through a 4 hour tennis final with an enthusiastic smile on his face isn't being paraded, but is actually enjoying himself. There was very little photographing of the Royal party on that occasion though I did find one photo. Same for football matches when Prince George and his dad go to watch Aston Villa.

As I understand it, during term time a 10 year old child can "perform" up to 15 hours per week, so I am sure the royals and their current school are keeping a close eye on these regulations.

The exploited children in the Windsor family were William and Harry, exploited by their mother.

Joseann

Glorianny

Anniebach

Glorianny you know Harry wasn’t supported by his family or
you believe Harry’s truth ?

I believe that he, like any other survivor of family conflict (and presumably you do realise there was conflict) is entitled to give his views of what happened and how that conflict affected them, especially if they feel it damaged them.

But at whose expense Glorianny? OK I agree that Harry is entitled to express his views about how damaging his own upbringing was. But (and this is in the book or in his promoting it, I cant remember which), it isn't then Harry's place to feel entitled to criticise his bother's and Catherine's parenting of their children, saying that they will end up as damaged as he is.
That's the problem, he has taken all this conflict one step too far.

If you come from a dysfunctional family and you see that the same practices which caused damage to you are still being practised, don't you have a duty to those you see suffering to point out what you see?
It is entirely possible he may be wrong, but actually I don't think that it is particularly good for children to be paraded, photographed and exhibited. If this was being done by any working class family there would be people in uproar about exploitation. There are really strong regulations in theatre and film for the time a child can be on stage etc.

Glorianny

Anniebach

Glorianny you know Harry wasn’t supported by his family or
you believe Harry’s truth ?

I believe that he, like any other survivor of family conflict (and presumably you do realise there was conflict) is entitled to give his views of what happened and how that conflict affected them, especially if they feel it damaged them.

But at whose expense Glorianny? OK I agree that Harry is entitled to express his views about how damaging his own upbringing was. But (and this is in the book or in his promoting it, I cant remember which), it isn't then Harry's place to feel entitled to criticise his bother's and Catherine's parenting of their children, saying that they will end up as damaged as he is.
That's the problem, he has taken all this conflict one step too far.

Anniebach

Glorianny you know Harry wasn’t supported by his family or
you believe Harry’s truth ?

I believe that he, like any other survivor of family conflict (and presumably you do realise there was conflict) is entitled to give his views of what happened and how that conflict affected them, especially if they feel it damaged them.

The problem I see is where do Librarians shelve the book? Under Fact or Fiction?

Glorianny you know Harry wasn’t supported by his family or
you believe Harry’s truth ?

For some reason Auto correct does not like the abbreviation for Science Fiction!

I wake early in the morning and read newspapers on line. I certainly don’t believe in everything that is written (usually badly with little reference to grammar!) and with the most casual relationship to accuracy. Some young journalists who write the royal items regularly rehash old stories and give them a different slant, then they are inserted with click bait headlines.

Personally I don’t ‘hate’ anybody, and can’t actually think of anyone who does admit to hating. I don’t like, and avoid, Sci-if fiction and films, but I don’t hate them. I think hate is a word bandied around far too much. I agree with Katie59’s 10:48.27 post.

Syracute believes that the book was insightful. Maybe so, but only into Harry’s ‘truth’. In what must be the quote of the century so far ‘Recollections may vary”!

Of course they can respond if they want to. Before Harry's book Charles and Diana both published books.

I'm constantly amazed by the different standards and attitudes taken to the RF than are taken to ordinary families.
Most people would say if you felt you were damaged by your childhood and your family you are entirely justified in telling anyone about it. Not if it's the RF.
Most would support anyone who was unhappy at their school-Not if it's the RF
Most would support someone who confessed to drug and alcohol abuse. Not if it's Harry.

Off thread or not, I agree with Katie49's post, about much of our media.

Thread drift, back on track I don’t think many hate H&M not even William and Kate, it’s a sad state of affairs when you deliberately try to humiliate your family by publishing your side of the story knowing they cannot respond.

Anniebach

This thread is not about the press

Quite.

It's a red herring, an attempt at derailment of the thread.

This thread is not about the press

Syracute

nanna8

I wasn’t going to pay for it so I waited until the library had it. Glad I didn’t pay for it, having read it. Not a good book and quite delusional ,unfortunately. I was hoping to feel some sympathy for the ‘author’ ( if he actually managed to write it himself ) but no, nada. Self indulgence par excellence. Ah well, sometimes the press are right …

Delusional ? Honestly, he was baring his soul . Daily Mail and The Sun do a good job of promoting lies and hate . You just jumped on that wagon and read through those ugly spectacles . It was worth reading . People here just live for reasons to hate Harry and Meghan. These tabloids made a fortune on that !

People here just live for reasons to hate Harry and Meghan

Is that in the USA?

As this is an online forum it is reasonable to think that not all Gransnetters live in the UK