Finally read ‘Spare’

Im with Syracuse, most of the great British public believe the hate and scandal the press publish, it gets repeated by the BBC and other media and becomes the truth.

I’ve no idea what other countries publish but our press make money selling scurrilous stories wether they are true or not.

I don’t think ‘hate’ comes into it at all. More pity, perhaps. Plus some annoyance that he besmirched his family .

My chiropodist was given a copy and said I could have it after she’d read it. It never got to me, she said she’d put it in the bin where it belonged, mostly unread.

Germanshepherdsmum

FannyCornforth

Having re-read your post, Syracute, I see that you are actually besmirching the British public too.
As I say, I’d be interested to hear where you are, where there is a population in possession of such superior moral fibre.

I suspect she’s from/in the US Fanny. Posts in the early hours and uses words such as ‘quit’ rather than ‘stop’.

Syracuse, Italy. Maybe heritage. Who knows, who really cares. Happy to malign the British public, whom she possibly knows nothing about.

Foxygloves

Well done! As soon as I saw the thread title my first thought was "Hope she didn't pay for it: !!!!

Me too!

Joseann

I'd put my money on your telling it to Harry straight and without judgment Dickens. I'm happy to stump up the fare for your ticket! 🇺🇸 ✈️

I don't know if I am judging him or not.

How far is a comment, outlining what you think or feel about a situation like this - a judgement of the individual(s) involved?

I certainly don't hate him, or even dislike him and don't join in the pile-on that happens every time he says or does something.

... and yes, I would tell it straight to Harry - but I'm pretty sure there are those who've already done that, and I'm also sure he wouldn't be interested in Mrs Random's thoughts on the matter anyway!

Not only that, but I hate flying- especially long-haul.

Germanshepherdsmum

FannyCornforth

Having re-read your post, Syracute, I see that you are actually besmirching the British public too.
As I say, I’d be interested to hear where you are, where there is a population in possession of such superior moral fibre.

I suspect she’s from/in the US Fanny. Posts in the early hours and uses words such as ‘quit’ rather than ‘stop’.

And employs strange punctuation.
Ah well, so “Spare” is well-written I think it has been generally agreed that Harry employed a good ghost- writer and nobody pretends that H wrote it himself. Judging by his general lack of articulacy in interviews I would have been very surprised if he had claimed he had.
Apparently “hate sells” - does it? There was plenty of “hate” in “Spare” , but there have also been plenty of remaindered copies “going spare”.

I'd put my money on your telling it to Harry straight and without judgment Dickens. I'm happy to stump up the fare for your ticket! 🇺🇸 ✈️

FannyCornforth

Having re-read your post, Syracute, I see that you are actually besmirching the British public too.
As I say, I’d be interested to hear where you are, where there is a population in possession of such superior moral fibre.

I suspect she’s from/in the US Fanny. Posts in the early hours and uses words such as ‘quit’ rather than ‘stop’.

Syracute

I bought it and read it . I thought it gave good insight . I guess for the Harry and Meghan haters will only see more reason to hate . It was well written . Moehringer ( the ghost writer) had a very good article in Vanity Fair about how he was harrassed by British press at his USA home and how frightening an experience it was . People need to quit reading the Daily Mail . Hate sells sadly too well in Britain !

The monarchy is a British institution that is so closely aligned with the nation's psyche that if any rational being makes a serious study of the phenomenon, they would ultimately thank their lucky stars that they were not born into it!

As a member of it you are rich, privileged, admired, lauded, not infrequently grovelled at by monarchists, and loathed, condemned - and even under threat sometimes by anti-royalists!

Almost from the moment of birth your eyes and ears have to deal with the onslaught of the Paparazzi Camera Flash - the necessary feed for a media hungry for 'news' of your every move which it can assemble and then cook-up its own concoction to present to the public.

And to remain popular with it (the public) you must behave both 'royally' and at the same time you have to show that you are human and 'ordinary'. You have to pretend that all your wealth, privilege, and your elite upbringing in that rarefied environment has not had the slightest effect on your ability to relate to Mr and Mrs Joe Public, nor your capabilities as a well-balanced and intelligent human-being.

Eagle-eyes will follow and scrutinise every move you make and royal experts, watchers, body-language experts, those in-the-know, etc, etc, will analyse it all for public consumption - as will the public who will interpret it all for themselves anyway.

Stoics - like the late Queen - who are made of sterner stuff will navigate the whole fantasy-life with apparent aplomb and ease, hardly ever putting a foot wrong. Those with a weaker constitution who are not mentally equipped with the required intellect or intelligence to steer themselves in the right direction, will make a real pig's ear of it.

Harry just doesn't have the capacity for objective self-reflection. I think he has delusions of his own importance in the world, and a real blind-spot when it comes to understanding family dynamics - particularly the noble family variety. I don't know who's encouraging him in his journey of 'self-discovery', in his desire to 'tell-all'... but if they had any integrity, they'd be advising him to retire quietly somewhere, live a life out of the public gaze, and lick his wounds in private for a number of years before even contemplating 'going public' with his grievances. Because he, like the rest of his family, is a product of a now anachronistic institution that has behaved bizarrely at times throughout history.

I believe the only way he will ever be at peace with himself is if he makes a genuine move to distance himself and his family completely from his status as a 'royal' - with all the privileges and 'trappings' that entails. But he won't, because that's all he's got. Instead of being the GOH at various public events, continually stepping into the limelight he professes to dislike, he should be quietly studying a trade or profession which could support him and his family and allow them to live a normal life - which he also professes to want.

As long as he holds on to his royal 'tag', exploiting it to maintain his lifestyle - he is no different to the rest of his family that he is describing as dysfunctional. And profiting from that dysfunctionality.

Having re-read your post, Syracute, I see that you are actually besmirching the British public too.
As I say, I’d be interested to hear where you are, where there is a population in possession of such superior moral fibre.

Syracute

I bought it and read it . I thought it gave good insight . I guess for the Harry and Meghan haters will only see more reason to hate . It was well written . Moehringer ( the ghost writer) had a very good article in Vanity Fair about how he was harrassed by British press at his USA home and how frightening an experience it was . People need to quit reading the Daily Mail . Hate sells sadly too well in Britain !

Where are you Syracute; where the press is so morally superior to that of the UK?

No hate here Syracute, but when you come to a book knowing that its content is designed to likely to cause upset to other family members, then I think readers have every justification to dislike it.
Unless Harry is thick, and has no idea how other family members (and school matrons etc) might actually feel.

There is sibling rivalry and jealousies in most families, mostly unjustified and I didn’t want to read about Harry’s. I was happy about them getting married they could have lived a quiet life without causing controversies but that didn’t suit Meghan.

I just lost interest in hearing about how a spoiled brat was so hard done by.

I was hoping to feel some sympathy for the ‘author’ ( if he actually managed to write it himself)

There's nothing wrong with using a ghost writer. I've ghosted a book about an ex-prisoner and he worked closely with me and signed off every part of it. It actually takes skill to write in someone else's voice. I found Spare interesting and parts of it insightful. I don't think you can judge a book by a few parts picked out by the media.

I also borrowed the book from my local library, and as I have related elsewhere, when I told the librarian that I had only read a little of it because it was so poor, he remarked that ‘that is what everyone says’. I added that I was glad that I hadn’t bought it. He laughed and said that is the second thing they say.

It is very rare for me to give up on a book, I try to persevere, but this was a step too far.

I borrowed it from the library and read it. I don't approve of Harry writing it and airing family problems in public but it did make me a bit more sympathetic to Harry's situation.

The hate accusation is so overused, dislike liars yes,

Anniebach

What did his brother being circumcised have to do with Harry’s soul ?

Well, it’s a body part as well ! What’s the big deal ? Haters just looking to hate !

What did his brother being circumcised have to do with Harry’s soul ?

nanna8

I wasn’t going to pay for it so I waited until the library had it. Glad I didn’t pay for it, having read it. Not a good book and quite delusional ,unfortunately. I was hoping to feel some sympathy for the ‘author’ ( if he actually managed to write it himself ) but no, nada. Self indulgence par excellence. Ah well, sometimes the press are right …

Delusional ? Honestly, he was baring his soul . Daily Mail and The Sun do a good job of promoting lies and hate . You just jumped on that wagon and read through those ugly spectacles . It was worth reading . People here just live for reasons to hate Harry and Meghan. These tabloids made a fortune on that !

I bought it and read it . I thought it gave good insight . I guess for the Harry and Meghan haters will only see more reason to hate . It was well written . Moehringer ( the ghost writer) had a very good article in Vanity Fair about how he was harrassed by British press at his USA home and how frightening an experience it was . People need to quit reading the Daily Mail . Hate sells sadly too well in Britain !

I haven't read it yet. Shall I bother?
I'm not sure.

😁
Skim reading?

Callistemon21

Well, that's a few hours of your life you'll never get back, nanna8!

Thank you on behalf of all of us 😀

a few hours?. got through it in an hour!