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At end of tether

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Luckygirl Thu 28-Feb-19 08:16:54

I do not seem to be a star turn at this caring lark; and have simply had enough this week.

OH is so stubborn. He just wants to sit in front of TV all day - fine, that is his right. But also he does not want me to go out and leave him. He is safe on his own for short periods - he has lifeline; I leave all phone numbers he could ring if needs be; I leave meds carefully labelled and ring in to make sure he has taken them etc.

The other day he said "I do not know how you can leave me like this" - enter guilt trip stage left.

I have tried to find ways of making it possible for him to come out with me, but yesterday when I suggested we get a small lightweight foldable wheelchair so that he could come out with me he looked at me with pure hatred and said: "You are not putting me in a wheelchair."

I suppose I was feeling a bit on the brink as I had just heard from the hospice that they cannot take him for respite whilst I go to a music festival at the end of May. Don't know how we are going to deal with this now - the B&B I have booked is entirely accessible for OH, but he is baulking at that too.

How do others cope with this sense of being trapped? I feel awful saying this as I know many people on here have lost partners and would give anything to have them back - but this is not my partner now really: just an obstinate old bloke who is stopping me living a life while I am still able. How crap does that sound?

I cannot make myself feel differently by turning a switch.

icanhandthemback Thu 28-Feb-19 17:17:05

Have you read "The Selfish Pig's Guide To Caring: How to cope with the emotional and practical aspects of caring for someone." If not, do read it. My sister bought it for me after I had finished looking after my Grandad who had dementia. I wish I had bought it whilst he was still alive, it would have been so useful.

Conni7 Thu 28-Feb-19 17:09:58

Luckygirl, you really need to take care of yourself and not feel guilty having any time off. I have a neighbour who is in the same situation, and she has now developed dementia with so much stress. Can your husband not see that if you are ill there will be no-one to look after him?

Fernbergien Thu 28-Feb-19 16:52:19

Luckygirl I can see you problem/ angst. My husband always been a bit anti social and now is worse so my life has shrunk even more and I feel cheated and resentful. I have to do virtually everything that requires a brain. Been told to do own thing but is difficult as have heath issues myself. Please try to get out and about. Don’t feel guilty. We must be careful not to make ourselves poorly at the selfish pressures of partners. Good luck and best wishes. Thank god for gransnet to let off steam.

Auntieflo Thu 28-Feb-19 16:24:26

Well done Luckygirl, these things are hard to broach, especially when you are both emotional.
Does your DH retain the things you talk about, or is he forgetful? I only ask because I wondered whether you could write them down, in a pretty card, or similar, so that he could read it perhaps when he is getting fraught with circumstances.

Day6 Thu 28-Feb-19 16:22:28

Luckygirl - I suspect every carer sometimes feels trapped. I know our neighbour in her 70s does as she cares for a very grumpy and unreasonable husband with dementia. She apologised to us not long ago for sounding weary and for criticising her husband when we had a chat. We sympathised. She feels her own life is very limited now.

You are doing a brilliant job Luckygirl so please sound off on here. No one will criticise you. You need an outlet. I think your plight highlights the problem of so many who are 'stuck' to a certain degree. Government (any government - now and in the future ) really does have to look at the increasing need for elderly care/minding and introduce more measures to ensure carers can get regular respite from their nursing roles.

I hope you are able to get away later in the year to your music festival. You are so deserving of a break. flowers

Luckygirl Thu 28-Feb-19 16:10:01

Firstly I have to send flowers to Izabella - this must be so hard for you; and I am grateful that you took the trouble to contribute to this thread when life is a challenge for you.

Just by way of explanation, my OH has had PD for over 10 years and is already an outpatient at our local hospice.

I am touched by the kindness of Gransnetters and their willingness to "fess up" to similar uncomfortable negative emotions.

I did sit down with him this morning and told him clearly that I cannot put my life on total hold without becoming resentful and unhappy, and that therefore I would be going out to do things that give me some satisfaction in life - but that I would always take the necessary steps to make sure he was as safe as he can be. And that these might in time include carers coming in to sit with him, respite care etc. I also made it clear that I am very happy for him to come with me where appropriate (e.g. to an open garden etc.), and that this might involve using a wheelchair, but that if he did not want to come then I would still go, having made the necessary arrangements for his care.

He mostly took this on the chin; and, thanks to the support of all you kind people, I do not feel guilty and have made up my mind that I must stop myself going down that route.

I can only send thanks to you all; and also good wishes to those facing similar situations.

lindiann Thu 28-Feb-19 15:36:41

Hi I am also a carer for my brother I have found Carers Uk are excellent for advice

Caro57 Thu 28-Feb-19 13:52:25

How difficult for you - does he have any medical condition that might contribute to his not wanting to go out? If not he sounds a bit like my OH who is, basically, anti-social and more interested in his dogs than people. We had words and I told him I wouldn't stop him doing what he wanted i.e. dogs but, equally, I was and am not prepared to sit at home waiting for him to be free to go out / on holiday etc. I think he has got the message as he still hates being on his own but doesn't moan when I go away / out - good luck

Izabella Thu 28-Feb-19 13:13:01

Oh luckygirl this so terrifies me that I will probably inflict this on my husband when my Alzheimer’s really affects my abilities and I feel so very very guilty. What a situation we are all in.

Lorelei Thu 28-Feb-19 13:04:09

Luckygirl, it is such a shame that you are having to deal with all these painful emotions as it sounds as if you are doing a sterling job of caring for your husband. I agree with others that you do need to find some way of getting some time to yourself and of having some sort of a life apart from that as your husband's carer. I have some limited experience of caring for someone who was very difficult (my nan, dementia - such a cruel illness) so can understand where some of these thoughts and feelings come from. But it is from a few conversations I had with my long-term partner recently that makes me want to stress the importance of caring for yourself too...back to that old adage of 'who cares for the carers'? Anyway, I have chronic health problems and my partner does a lot for me. A recent episode saw me hospitalised, given a new 'nasty' diagnosis and needing more care. My partner was/is brilliant but said he even had thoughts along the lines of 'if she's going to die I hope it is now and not so I have to care for her long-term as she suffers' - makes me realise just how hard it is on those that love us and want to do right by us. I've learnt to text (at last), have the house phone and can do simple stuff for myself now so he is back to work and we are both happier. We know he may need 'time-out' and I don't mind what he does or where he goes as long as he can find an outlet, something he can enjoy, something that does not involve having to consider me and my needs. This is not about me...I think what I am trying to say is: 1: make time for yourself and remember you are not to blame for his current condition. 2: Give your husband a few options and if he refuses all of them tell him he must find his own solution (presuming that if he is manipulative enough to smother you with emotional blackmail he is capable of making choices). 3: Have friends and interests that do not involve him, that are totally separate from your caring 'responsibilities' - you must make the most of your life while you are able to do so. 4: Try and find some joy, light-heartedness, fun - do not let him stop you going to that music festival you mention for instance. 5: Try and find a relative, friend, befriender, carer, anyone who can give you a break every now and then - if your husband won't have any of it tell him it is his choice that he will be alone for 'X' period of time! You don't give specifics, but I was in a hospice years ago for respite then day care (yes, I was one who defied the odds and improved for a time), but hospice care is usually for those with chronic or life-threatening, life-limiting illnesses, palliative care etc - they must be full/busy if they are unable to offer respite when you asked for it - maybe ask them if they could bear you in mind if a place does become available - never know what could happen between now and the end of May. Please take care of yourself, don't beat yourself up for being human and know that Gransnet is full of people that can be supportive, can empathise, can make you smile/laugh, don't mind if you want to swear, let off steam or just have a good old moan etc - internet friends as such. flowers flowers and more flowers because you more than deserve them smile

Saggi Thu 28-Feb-19 12:28:56

Oh lucky girl , what resonance . My OH watches tv from 8 in morning through TIL midnight + .... he’s done it joe for 12 years .... all through me working full time the part time... through his grandchildren being born and growing away from him( as he craned past their little faces to see the tv) these people are so narcissistic , they don’t know what they’re missing or who they’re missing out on . Mine won’t even walk up the street with me . Suggesting I buy a electric scooter for him,is met with disdain and absolutely no explanation. I then decided I had two choices ..... join him in his self inflicted penance of daytime tv .... or live what’s left of my life basically without him. I chose the latter. He of course would like me to watch him , watching tv all day .... but it ain’t gonna happen. He’s fallen a few times while I’ve been out .... if he hasn’t managed it himself ,I pick him up when I get in. He refuses to ‘ master’ a mobile phone. All this nonesense is to force me to look after him 24/7. I won’t do it. My guilt is non existent now .... been there and now destroyed all the t- shirts.

nipsmum Thu 28-Feb-19 11:52:35

My friend worked for an organisation called Crossroads. She worked on a voluntary basis and did sitting with patients in their own home to give their carers some respite. Please do try and get a little respite yourself. Having worked with elderly and demented people for almost 30 years I know the strain it puts on carers. I'm so sorry you are having to live with this every day.

Fran0251 Thu 28-Feb-19 11:07:05

LuckyGirl, there are carers out there, Bluebird is one of them. I'm about to use them as I have to have an operation and might need help. You appear to be the victim of emotional blackmail. Gagagran speaks sense.

MargaretinNorthant Thu 28-Feb-19 10:58:30

Age UK offer a "sitting with" service, or they did when my husband was alive. It was I think either free for the first hour or a nominal fee. I don't know if they still do it, or if they only do it in some places.

Annaram1 Thu 28-Feb-19 10:57:18

Luckygirl, what is actually wrong with your hubby? You mention a hospice. Is he terminally ill? Life can be very difficult once our loved ones change into somebody not very loveable. I cannot give advice but there are several ideas by other grans.
My husband had Alzheimers for 4 years before his stroke. I looked after him devotedly, took him to the shops and church, and even on a holiday. He grew steadily worse, began accusing me in public of trying to kill him etc. and after his stroke was in hospital and then a care home for about 2 years, during which time I visited him for 5 hours a day. I told him about our family and friends, and gave him his meals. if he could eat them. As he could not speak and seemed not to understand, I don't know how much he actually gained. In the end I don't think he even knew who I was.
When he finally passed away I felt relieved. I grieved, and still do, not for how he had been at the end but for the loving husband and father he had once been.

Carolelouise Thu 28-Feb-19 10:56:11

I feel for you. My husband has MS and the start of dementia, up until a few months ago I did absolutely everything. It is only in the last few months that we have received help. I think the emotional blackmail is the worse part. As I have had the recent help I now have time for myself and no longer feel guilty. It took a lot to accept outside help. It might be easy for me to say as we are all different but tough love might have to come in to it; use the wheelchair or stay at home, if he wants to balk at something let him.Take the control out of his hands. Luckygirl you’re not a bad person for having these feelings, I totally understand where you are coming from, I have been there. In the last few months I have decided I need a life too, it was just making that decision that has improved my life. Sending you a big hug.

Shinyredcar Thu 28-Feb-19 10:53:06

Ah, Luckygirl, like so many others, I know just what you mean. My OH (dead now) had a package of support to allow me to get out of the house but refused to have anything to do with any of the carers. He even at one stage had a car and driver to take him anywhere he wanted - to the pub for lunch, to look at the countryside - but refused to go because 'I could take him'. I kept on for too many years, with him very difficult. I thought it was because of dementia. Eventually the professionals said it was deliberate controlling behaviour.

At one point I had an anniversary event I was desperate to go to and arranged for two days' respite care for him in a good residential home. He went. He had to. They told me how chatty he was and how he joined in with things. When he came home he never said a word, but was a bit nicer to me.

In the end I had a breakdown so he had to go into care.

This sort of break is available in residential homes, as well as hospices. Ask. Or you will break, and both of you will suffer.

Gagagran Thu 28-Feb-19 10:34:32

I really felt your frustration and anger at the situation you find yourself in lucky and my heart goes out to you. Your OH is being totally unreasonable and it is clear that he is not going to change unless his dependency on you being fit and well enough to care for him, is spelt out.

That means you need some time to recharge your batteries and he risks you having total burn out if that doesn't happen. Then where would he be? In a home? In a hospice? Dependent on three short visits a day from a carer?

Is there anyone in the family or friends or even old colleagues who he would listen to? You need some allies to fight your corner I think. There has to be a change if you are to carry on and I would try to get a third party in to talk to him and plan some respite for you.

Hope something can be done. You deserve it. flowers

kwest Thu 28-Feb-19 10:31:42

You poor darling. Years ago I had my grandma living with us after my parents died. Sometimes the only way I remained sane ( not her fault, I was too young , 26 married with two small children) was to reward myself,once the children were old enough for school, by driving to a garden centre with a newspaper and sitting with a coffee for half an hour of undisturbed peace and quiet.

sweetcakes Thu 28-Feb-19 10:29:20

You don't mention if you have children who could help out, speak to him about his stubbornness towards you. It's not fair that you have no life.

Scribbles Thu 28-Feb-19 10:26:11

Luckygirl, I can't add anything practical to what has already been suggested but felt I had to send you a (((cyber hug))) if it will help. I think you're amazing. ????

dotters Thu 28-Feb-19 10:20:19

I was talking to a man at the swimming pool last week who said that he is looking for some voluntary jobs in the 'sitting with and chatting to' category. Where would somebody find such information? I suggested the volunteer centre at the local hospital but wondered how one covers people in own home.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Thu 28-Feb-19 10:15:36

Oh Lucky I feel for you, it must be terrible. Caring for a spouse is so difficult. You hate yourself for being stressed but you are anyway. My husband didn't lose his marbles (MND) but his condition was heartbreaking. When he passed away I was told that it was a release for him and a relief for me.
A few years later we had - dare I say it? - his bloody mother with two different types of dementia. I could have cheerfully strangled her. Is there an organisation who can provide 'sitters' to make sure he is all right just to give you a short break? They are worth their weight in gold. Chin up, lass, it won't be for ever.

Magrithea Thu 28-Feb-19 10:13:28

Others may have suggested it but how about a walker with built in seat? Does he need help with walking/getting about? My SiL has one and it's a help when she's going short distances.

MawBroon Thu 28-Feb-19 10:12:24

I have PM’d you Luckygirl
But your feelings are entirely normal flowers