Help no POA do not know what to do next

Agree with Romola
I did it and then forgot to Register it with the OPG.
Tomorrow, I will go to Tesco, have it printed, signed and sent off.
It is not expensive if you do it yourself - £92 each

Romola

Getting PoAs online is straightforward and simple, if somewhat tedious.
Solicitors charge a stupid amount, having had the work done by clerical workers. Unless you are time-poor, do it yourself .

Agreed that you do not need a solicitor - just need to be very careful to do the signing in the right order but it is all explained with the online forms.

Etoile2701

I am in the process of trying to set up a POA for myself and my DH now. Not easy and very expensive. Is it really essential?

IMO, yes. Financial and welfare POA are as essential as Wills.
We have both.

My active middle aged uncle fell over in the street and hit his head on the edge of a granite kerb. He instantly and permanently lost all mental and physical capacity and spent the last months of his life as a non verbal vegetable in a hospital bed. His wife did not have POA , no access to all his accounts and assets from which (as a very efficient CA) he had always managed all their household finances and investments. No say in his medical care. On top of all the acute sadness and worry for him, she was struggling with unpaid bills for their very large house.

His hospital care was awful but the ample money that could easily have afforded private care, was all in his name and out of her reach.

Makes e realise I must re do a POA for myself for my son and DiL.

I had one directed to my DH before I realised how abusive he was to me and eventually got a divorce, a new will,

but not a POA. I'll ring Age UK to get help to do it myself, it's a simple naming son and DiL, no one else involved.

I dont want them to have to go through it all.

Just wanted to thank everyone who took the time to comment / make suggestions.

It is such a minefield.

Thank you

Thinking of you. It's a very difficult situation which can happen to so many of us. Remember to take care of yourself. Lallylou x

This might be helpful

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/family/looking-after-people/managing-affairs-for-someone-else/#h-who-can-make-decisions-when-someone-loses-mental-capacity-and-there-s-no-power-of-attorney

Yes its a tricky stage. I am looking after my mum and dad at their home I have help from my husband and do not have POA. It was drafted by the solicitor years ago but not registered as dad did not want to pay the extra cost. At some stage another family member named on the drafted paperwork tried to take over but as it was not registered this was not able to happen. So it is not always an advantage. Dad went back to the solicitor who said that there was no need to register. I tried to do the online paperwork but I couldnt complete it. I wish I could advise. I looked at court of protection and saw the word solicitor which is going to come at a cost. I now cannot work much just agency and its put me off proceeding with it as well. Solicitors are not an affordable option for me. Perhaps the care home know the way forward. It may depend on your dads savings or if he owns his own home or not.

Could you contact a good local solicitor and get an appointment to discuss some kind of curatorship, if that exists where you live? They would use the house as collateral and the funds to pay for the care home and their fees etc.

I did my own.If you follow the instructions,it’s not difficult to fill in.It’s much cheaper too!

We did it ourselves last week and have already received acknowledgment. It is a straightforward form, solicitor not necessary as it’s reasonably straightforward form filling. Cost is £82 for each form, but will increase this month,

Court of protection.

Etoile2701

I am in the process of trying to set up a POA for myself and my DH now. Not easy and very expensive. Is it really essential?

We did ours ourselves. It’s fairly straightforward but you do need to read the instructions very carefully! Particularly IIRC as regards witnesses and dating their signatures. Any mistake, and it’s rejected and you have to start - and pay! - again.

Connie16

Can anyone advise how you deal with this process if you don't have any family? I'm single and don't have any surviving relatives, apart from a niece who lives abroad and who I haven't seen/heard of for years.
I need to make a Will (I plan to leave my house and all my assets to my favourite charity) and now this post has also got me thinking about PoA and what I should do.
From what posters have said, it sounds like I could deal with the online completion of the forms myself (I don't have the funds for expensive solicitors).
But what do you do if you don't have anyone (a) to appoint as Executor of your Will and (b) to nominate as a Deputy in a PoA? Is there some independent body who will step in and serve in these roles?

Sorry I meant to add my comment to this - still getting used to how to do it. It has come out as a separate comment on next page Connie16

At last someone in the same position as me. Had a will for years (my late sister was a solicitor and yes I updated it and found a new one when she died) I used to stress over this. The Solicitor is my executor. I have a funeral plan in place but worry about the POA which my sister and then me (via the Courts) did for my Mum. I presumed I could pay the Solicitor to do it but they seem reluctant. I do not wish to put this burden on any of my good friends most who are the same age as me (71) as I feel it's unfair. I've come to the conclusion if unfortunately I get to this state someone will have to sort me out. I'm (hopefully) going to do a Directions of wishes and a Living Will but know these don't have legal bearing. It can't only be Connie16 and me in this position so would be really grateful for any suggestions and if you get any Connie. All my money - if it hasn't gone on care - will go to Charites apart from a few bequests to friends.

I understood that if you do not have mental capacity you cannot make a POA. Does this not still apply?

Re solicitors fees, I worked with many solicitors when I was a self-employed accountant and in all cases their attitude was to charge modest fees for "lifetime" work such as wills, conveyancing etc so that clients would respect them, and then make their money when the client died or required an Attorney as they were in no position to challenge the fees at that stage of their lives.

Suggest you contact Age uk for advice about attorneys, there must be a cheaper option than an expensive solicitor . Citizens advice or the charity you are leaving your estate to might be able to advise.
There will be many people in a similar situation.

You can use a solicitor to act in your best interests.

Can anyone advise how you deal with this process if you don't have any family? I'm single and don't have any surviving relatives, apart from a niece who lives abroad and who I haven't seen/heard of for years.
I need to make a Will (I plan to leave my house and all my assets to my favourite charity) and now this post has also got me thinking about PoA and what I should do.
From what posters have said, it sounds like I could deal with the online completion of the forms myself (I don't have the funds for expensive solicitors).
But what do you do if you don't have anyone (a) to appoint as Executor of your Will and (b) to nominate as a Deputy in a PoA? Is there some independent body who will step in and serve in these roles?

Getting PoAs online is straightforward and simple, if somewhat tedious.
Solicitors charge a stupid amount, having had the work done by clerical workers. Unless you are time-poor, do it yourself .

Georgesgran

My friend’s Aunt argued against going into a Care Home and appointed her Solicitor to act for her (her children declined)in Court. She really didn’t have capacity to consent, so the Solicitor administered her finances etc. and charged a hefty amount for so doing. One thing that arose was that Aunty wanted to pay for an operation for her son, but the Solicitor denied that, saying her money was solely for her care and wellbeing,

The solicitor was quite right. Any POA must abide by the rule that the money must only be used for the care of there doner.

We completed the PoA forms online last week. It was relatively straightforward, we sent it off and have already had an acknowledgment of receipt. It cost £164 per person for both health and wealth.

Yes, Etoile, it is essential, not necessarily for you, as if you should sadly become mentally incapable of running your own affairs, you might not realise what a state things can get into. However, for your family, it makes a huge difference by making it a lot easier (and cheaper) to stand in for you and make decisions which you can no longer make.

My mother couldn't deal with her financial affairs for some time before she died, and chose to invoke the financial component of her POA so that my brother and I could do that for her, and then the welfare component was needed when she could no longer decide anything for herself.

Please do it for your family!

I am in the process of trying to set up a POA for myself and my DH now. Not easy and very expensive. Is it really essential?

I needed POA for my daughter’s finances and applied for it on the grounds that she was not mentally able to handle her finances due to her learning disability. I got a letter from the `Dr, Social Worker etc and got it. HOWEVER I subsequently found out that only the Court of Protection could say if a person had the mental capacity or not and my POA was revoked and had to apply to the COP, by filling out a huge form and producing evidence. The case was then put before a judge and a decision made. It took over a year. This is the only way. I got POA and dispitd my ill health I took it on. It was quite easy with online banking and didn’t take up much of my time once I had set up direct debits for her residential fees etc.