Sir Tom Moore Charity: Found Seriously Mismanaged

Could a 100 year old man trust his daughter ? surely not

Jeanathome

I wonder where the money went? Genuinely, at the time I couldn't understand it. Perhaps if we'd seen the Captain Tom Wing/ Ward, it might have made some sense.

The money wasn't intended to prop up the NHS and quite right too.

It was for the benefit of the hardworking staff.

I think Captain Tom Moore started this in good faith, felt he was doing his bit to help and others were inspired by him to do the same.

It's a pity that his family have tarnished his memory.

Anniebach

Perhaps he didn’t write the book,

Yes, my thoughts too.

lemsip

how rotten that people are now saying they didn't even like him!
he raised just short of 40 million for the NHS.

His daughter and son in law are the shady ones who have done wrong
I believe a prosecution will now follow!

how rotten that people are now saying they didn't even like him!
he raised just short of 40 million for the NHS.

Just sheer spite, isn't it.

How much did any of them do to raise money for good causes?

Er actually I think that was part of the problem. People who expressed any concern about what was happening would have been labelled as unkind. It is a way to stop any concerns being aired.

Allira

lemsip

how rotten that people are now saying they didn't even like him!
he raised just short of 40 million for the NHS.

His daughter and son in law are the shady ones who have done wrong
I believe a prosecution will now follow!

how rotten that people are now saying they didn't even like him!
he raised just short of 40 million for the NHS.

Just sheer spite, isn't it.

How much did any of them do to raise money for good causes?

Why should you have to like someone just because they raised a lot of money for the NHS?

Frankly the way the NHS was working hard to try and kill off my family at the time, I had no desire to contribute to any fund raising for them.

I am also, always wary of band wagons, especially charity band wagons, and steer clear of causes and people suddenly raising large sums of money based entirely on (generally misplaced) enthusisam for a specific cause or fund raiser. I prefer to stick to charities I feel are well established, with a proven track record, whether supporting the NHS or any other cause.

I can tell you caregorically that I did not contribute 1p to the Captain Tom appeals.

I prefer to stick to charities I feel are well established, with a proven track record, whether supporting the NHS or any other cause.

Frankly the way the NHS was working hard to try and kill off my family at the time, I had no desire to contribute to any fund raising for them.

Contradictory statements

It was for the benefit of the hardworking staff

How did they benefit please?

I'm thinking of the Maggie Cancer charity. I know people who have felt supported by this.

I watched a news item recently featuring an interview with Michael Ball - he released 'You'll Never Walk Alone along with Sir Tom - and Michael was very concerned about how this charity has now been sullied. What a dreadful state of affairs.
I am so glad that I donate to local charities rather than nationally promoted ones.

Allira

^I prefer to stick to charities I feel are well established, with a proven track record, whether supporting the NHS or any other cause.^

Frankly the way the NHS was working hard to try and kill off my family at the time, I had no desire to contribute to any fund raising for them.

Contradictory statements

No, the first para is general, the second para is specific.

When my father died 17 years ago. I made a donation to the NHS to thank them for their care of him.

During covid, some 13 years later, I wouldn't donate a brass farthing to the NHS, my family was suffering too much at their hands.

I too was swept away in the "lovely old man walks around his garden for the NHS" sentiment until his whole family accompanied him to I believe it was The Bahamas, or somewhere in the Caribbean because, they said, he's always wanted to go there.

Hmm - I always thought it was an odd place to have always wanted to go to and tbh, the thought of the flight and all the aggravation that goes with long haul travel these days would put me off going, let alone someone 30 odd years older.

The book presumably, was ghost written and I would hazard a guess, very loosely based on a few interviews and embellished for sensationalism.

Was he in cahoots with the daughter? Well, we'll never know. I'm not sure at that age I would be bothered to go through all that relentless publicity and intrusion to make money. None of us live forever, when did he think he was going to spend it? Unless, I suppose, he was happy to use it as an opportunity to to increase the inheritance.

I think the money was intended to help all the NHS workers on Covid wards, ie counselling etc. I worked for the NHS at the time but didn’t hear of anyone who benefited from this money.

Poppyred

I think the money was intended to help all the NHS workers on Covid wards, ie counselling etc. I worked for the NHS at the time but didn’t hear of anyone who benefited from this money.

That's interesting.

I felt the whole thing was hyped up by the media , it was full on in our faces and I would leave the room or turn off tv radio . I didn't contribute . I help our small local charities. Do you know who I feel deeply for , the Ingram children, young adults at uni or school must have to put up with awful comments and bullying . They were made to sit in on the documentary which was on TV. I felt so sorry for them .

The small charities, being run by a handful of volunteers at best, just couldn't handle the vast amounts of money (£40 million I think?) that were coming in. Maybe some of it went on accountants fees to give advice on how to spend it while creaming some of it off themselves.

The charity commision should really be telling people where their money went.

It is a salutary lesson for us all I think.

Allsorts

I have read up on this since it was posted. What a greedy, manipulative daughter, who used her very old father for money she turns out to be. She and her husband have profited from a National Disaster and besmirched Tom Moores name. Truly hope the couple lose their home and pay everything back to charity, they deserve to be made an example of. Wheres the other daughter in all this?

I agree, awful people, her and her husband!

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/captain-tom-moore-foundation-finances-b2011018.html

I found this old article (2022) which gives examples of how some of the money was spent by the hospitals and hospital trusts that received it.

Cabbie21

I hope she is forced to repay to the charity the money she has pocketed. Exploitative, manipulative, greedy, self-seeking are words which come to mind to describe Hannah. Accepting £18000 for an event when she was already being paid as a director is surely fraud?
It doesn’t impinge on the £39 million that went to the NHS charity.

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My goodness me, what a lot of finger-wagging "told you so", "never liked him", "something dodgy about him" lot!

His family has done the wrong thing and ruined the memory of what Captain Tom was trying to do with the best of intentions. However, he died in February 2021 and doubtless knew nothing about any of this.

Gransnetters thought he was an inspiration at the time.
www.gransnet.com/forums/coronavirus/1277013-Captain-Tom?pg=5

How things change.

BlueBelle

I never got with the whole thing I thought he was a game old boy but I felt it was all choreographed from the start and I didn’t join in the adulation However that’s not to do with him but the stuff going on around him I felt he was a pawn in a bigger story right from day one Sometimes you just get feelings

I’m glad I’m not the only one! I had a strange feeling about the daughter from the start and had a feeling she was after glory for herself. Sir Tom seemed lovely but to me, it seemed like he was a puppet under his daughter’s control. I’m afraid, even though it’s easy to say in hindsight, I disliked her intensely from the start.

I feel rather sorry for her children. They've been trundled out in every photo opportunity, including the disastrous Piers Morgan interview and I can't help but wonder what affect it's all had on them with their peer groups and friends. Poor kids.

Allira

My goodness me, what a lot of finger-wagging "told you so", "never liked him", "something dodgy about him" lot!

His family has done the wrong thing and ruined the memory of what Captain Tom was trying to do with the best of intentions. However, he died in February 2021 and doubtless knew nothing about any of this.

Gransnetters thought he was an inspiration at the time.
www.gransnet.com/forums/coronavirus/1277013-Captain-Tom?pg=5

How things change.

Yes, things do change, but for good reason in this case. People can only go on what they see and know. What Sir Tom was doing was interesting, but I think the media got carried away and stirred us all up to a frenzy. We all admired him.
That said, if circumstances change, then feelings change and this is what happened here. His daughter has ruined her father’s reputation and shown herself to be a selfish money-grabbing apology for a daughter and she should be ashamed. This is why there ha# been this change in attitude towards this.

Grunty

I feel rather sorry for her children. They've been trundled out in every photo opportunity, including the disastrous Piers Morgan interview and I can't help but wonder what affect it's all had on them with their peer groups and friends. Poor kids.

Yes, I said that earlier too. Someone asked how old the children were. They were school children, the little girl was always dressed in pretty frocks (specially for the cameras?).

Crossstitchfan

Allira

My goodness me, what a lot of finger-wagging "told you so", "never liked him", "something dodgy about him" lot!

His family has done the wrong thing and ruined the memory of what Captain Tom was trying to do with the best of intentions. However, he died in February 2021 and doubtless knew nothing about any of this.

Gransnetters thought he was an inspiration at the time.
www.gransnet.com/forums/coronavirus/1277013-Captain-Tom?pg=5

How things change.

Yes, things do change, but for good reason in this case. People can only go on what they see and know. What Sir Tom was doing was interesting, but I think the media got carried away and stirred us all up to a frenzy. We all admired him.
That said, if circumstances change, then feelings change and this is what happened here. His daughter has ruined her father’s reputation and shown herself to be a selfish money-grabbing apology for a daughter and she should be ashamed. This is why there ha# been this change in attitude towards this.

I take your points, Crossstitchfan, but instead of commenting on what has happened, what his family has done since then, the thread is full of spiteful little comments about the man himself which no-one was making at the time.

Strange.

GN is made up of many different posters, I wasnt on that thread and lots of people currently on this thread also dont appear on that thread. It therefore isnt strange at all. In the hysteria of the time it would have been almost impossible for someone to raise concerns.