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The song 'Imagine'

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imjingl Thu 03-May-12 09:20:53

I think this song is one of those pop songs that sound very dreamy, and even 'worthy' on the surface, but in fact has no substance whatsoever when relating it to real life.

"Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace..."

Yes. Imagine. Because that's all it would ever be without people and politicians putting in real time and effort to change things.

"I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will live as one."

Join you where John? In bed with Yoko? 'Only sleeping'?

(I started a new thread for this, apart from my Hymns thread. smile

Ceesnan Mon 07-May-12 08:28:29

I am certainly not attacking anyone, just making a perfectly valid comment which was based on earlier posts. Really don't think you have any reason to take offence greatnan if you were inclined to do so!

Greatnan Mon 07-May-12 09:52:35

No, I would only take offence if I thought there was an orchestrated attack on me, rather than on my opinions. I just don't understand why anyone would presume that I hated Britain - I have certainly never said anything to suggest that. I love living in France, and when I emigrate to New Zealand it won't be because I have stopped loving France but because my daughter worries about me as I live alone in a very isolated place.

nanaej Mon 07-May-12 21:40:46

Maybe the 'celebrity' Liverpudlians and Scots etc who live away from their original home place still really do like their 'roots' but like other people their work or other reasons mean they cannot be there full time. Greatn think there has been a communication malfunction confused

Anagram Mon 07-May-12 21:51:56

The confusion arose because the thread started off being about the song 'Imagine', but somehow very quickly became personal!

Ceesnan Tue 08-May-12 06:57:27

To be fair, some of the comments made have been quite contravertial (sp?).

Greatnan Tue 08-May-12 07:02:14

I think that honest opinions, even if they are controversial, should not give rise to personal attacks on any member.

Ceesnan Tue 08-May-12 07:19:21

Well, I am just expressing my honest opinion too, and certainly don't feel I have made a personal attack on anyone. Life is much too short to get into a huff about a forum topic, but if you post you must be prepared for someone to disagree with you.

imjingl Tue 08-May-12 09:23:38

I can't see any personal attack on this thread. confused

Cessnan was echoing my post - "What's that got to do with the price of potatos the song 'Imagine'?"

I think we have to be careful not to take innocent remarks as being attacks on our own, perhaps slightly over-sensitive, sensibilities. smile sunshine (and any other emoticons that can deflect any more sniffiness)

Greatnan Tue 08-May-12 09:39:19

Hello, jingle, I wondered where you were. I love the idea that I am over-sensitive, thank you!
I really don't mind being questioned about my reasons for leaving England, even the unwarranted assumption that I must hate the land of my birth.
As far as I am concerned, this thread has run its course so my apologies to John Lennon, Billy Connolly and Sean Connery who may have been hurt by my comments. smile

Ceesnan Tue 08-May-12 09:56:22

jingle flowers

imjingl Tue 08-May-12 10:07:15

You could talk about this one now its here and its much better smile

Bags Tue 08-May-12 10:11:41

jing, your Links often don't work on my iPad.

imjingl Tue 08-May-12 10:15:14

Or this one fantastic video beautiful people

imjingl Tue 08-May-12 10:15:46

Oh get a proper 'puter Bags!!! hmm

imjingl Tue 08-May-12 10:16:43

Yes, I know you've got one and y0ure working in the garden/in the sewing room/making japanese balls etc. etc. hmm

imjingl Tue 08-May-12 10:17:34

I mean, I can re-design the i-pad, can I?!!!!! hmm

Anagram Tue 08-May-12 10:18:59

I love both of those, jingl, especially In my Life. I think the earlier songs were the best!

Bags Tue 08-May-12 10:27:44

Mwah to you too, jings! grin

Got the second one and, yes, it'snice. What is that building in Liverpool? Coen Exchange?

Bags Tue 08-May-12 10:28:40

oops

Corn

Anagram Tue 08-May-12 10:47:09

The Liver Building, Bags! (Liver birds - get it? grin)

Bags Tue 08-May-12 11:05:32

Yes, I get that bit, nag, it was what the building was for that I was wondering. I wiki-ed it so I know now. smile

Oh look! There,s anew word for someone to complain about! wink

Bags Tue 08-May-12 11:06:04

And a low-slung apostrophe. Shocking!

imjingl Tue 08-May-12 11:09:07

I did mean, a bit up/down the thread that I can't re-design the .... blah blah blah.

Not "can"

Bags Tue 08-May-12 11:13:04

I got (or, rather, DH got for me) one of the first iPads in the country. (He's like that). So it doesn't do Flash Player. I expect the newer versions can.

nanaej Tue 08-May-12 11:50:26

I guess it was my post Greatnan took to be personal. Just trying to express my confusion at the view, that appeared to me to say celebrities who lived/worked abroad = did not like their birthplace and so if they spoke well of it were therefore hypocrites. I was challenging the view that living /working away from birthplace meant you did not like it..obviously did not do it very well!