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What is worth your anger?

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Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 16:20:17

I don't get angry if somebody disagrees with my honestly held views, even when those of us who have the confidence to engage in reasoned debate are labelled arrogant. I don't get angry when I am 'accused' of being a leftie, a guardian-reader, or even when it is implied that I am part of a clique or a gang of bullies because some other members agree with my views.

I don't get angry when I see a misplaced apostrophe, or a spelling or grammar mistake.

I get angry when I see young men and women being returned to their parents in flag-draped coffins.
I get angry when children are starving in countries that spend billions on arms.
I get angry when people in positions of trust abuse children or vulnerable adults.
I get angry when their employers or superiors cover up their foul deeds.
I get angry when girls/women are beaten, tortured and murdered because they don't conform to their parents' cultural norms.
I get angry when any minority group is subjected to discrimination.
I get angry when I read how many people, mostly with mental health problems, have died in police custody.
I get angry when the religious beliefs of a minority are able to influence laws which affect the whole population.
I get angry when mistaken medical information is used to put lives at risk or people are denied proper treatment for religious reasons.
I get angry when I read of the sick and disabled being terrified almost to the point of suicide by the threat of having their benefits withdrawn.
I get angry when the richest get tax reductions.
I get angry when contracts are not put out to tender honestly.
I get angry when well-fed, smug and rich politicians claim to be feeling the same pain as the people who have lost their jobs and cannot find others.
I get angry when somebody I consider to be a war criminal earns yet another £100,000 for a one hour 'inspirational' talk.
I get angry when so few rapists are convicted and I get very angry when women make false rape claims.
I am angry that the surgeon who ruined the lives of my daughter and at least a dozen other women was allowed to continue working when there were 75 complaints against him between 1999 and 2008.
I get angry that there appeared to be no system in place for picking up on his dismal statistics and that none of his colleagues 'blew the whistle'.
I am angry that he has never apologised.

You could say I am a very angry person but not because of some continuing hostility from a person who has never met me - that is not even mildly irritating because it is predictable enough to be amusing.

So, what do you consider to be worthy of your anger?

whenim64 Sat 18-Aug-12 08:32:08

So many things on everyone's lists that I can identify with, but the one thing that brings out those powerful emotions in me is harm done to children.

Bags Sat 18-Aug-12 08:34:51

Agreed. The worst kind of abuse of power.

MiceElf Sat 18-Aug-12 08:45:14

Lots of things on this thread, but at the moment Michael Gove tops the list.

absentgrana Sat 18-Aug-12 12:18:56

Michael Gove doesn't make me angry. However, the mere thought of him fills me with both contempt and despair.

Annobel Sat 18-Aug-12 20:15:12

He makes me feel murderous - is that anger or something worse?

jeni Sat 18-Aug-12 21:12:18

Worse!

glassortwo Sat 18-Aug-12 21:23:23

At the moment my anger is firmly placed on Ian Brady for the agony he put that poor woman and family through, and who sadly lost her life today.

Bags Sun 19-Aug-12 06:06:07

I feel angry at what Brady did and about the hurt he caused people. I don't feel angry that Winnie Johnson has died. I feel glad that she has died.

Bags Sun 19-Aug-12 06:07:22

Except.... it is not anger. It is something else. Sorrow at evil. Sadness.

Joan Sun 19-Aug-12 06:20:28

I get angry at right-wing ratbags in power, especially when they use the power for idealism-based horrors that hurt vulnerable people. (It is happening right now in Queensland Australia where I live)

I get angry at all injustices.

And bullying.

And all the stuff Greatnan said.

Greatnan Sun 19-Aug-12 07:19:21

Joan - see my post about Mitt Romney's choice for a vice-presidential candidate- he wants to cut food subsidies for the poor, reduce spending on health for the elderly, and cut taxes for the rich!

janeainsworth Sun 19-Aug-12 08:52:30

Greatnan Romney is only a candidate.
If the American people vote Obama out, they will get the government they deserve.

Greatnan Sun 19-Aug-12 08:58:45

But will the poor and elderly get the government they deserve?

Bags Sun 19-Aug-12 09:06:17

Maybe not, but I bet they'd rather have an unfair democracy than an unfair autocracy. Poor in the US is not the same as poor in poorer countries.

Joan Sun 19-Aug-12 09:46:06

Greatnan I've been watching Romney and his even worse VP candidate with growing horror. They go beyond right-wing idealism and have reached fascism imho.

I will be utterly surprised if Romney wins though - I can't imagine any woman voting for them, nor any non-white immigrant, nor African American, nor anyone on a low wage or benefits.....

Thank goodness I live somewhere relatively civilised. True, we have a nasty right wing state government, but compared to Romney's mob, our lot are red flag-waving Marxists!!

Bags Sun 19-Aug-12 09:49:30

"Good" Mormon women may well vote for Romney.

Bags Sun 19-Aug-12 09:53:18

Your third para is interesting, joan. I have thought for a while that there isn't much difference between the extremes at either end of the political ideological spectrum, even though how they get there may be very different. I think of it now as a circle. Either extreme leads to autocracy and dictatorship, often with military rulers, and masses of oppression of individuals' freedom.

nightowl Sun 19-Aug-12 10:22:24

I think you raise an interesting point Bags that 'poor in the US is not the same as poor in poorer countries'. It is undoubtedly true - but I do wonder how it must feel to be really poor in America; as a black person in the southern states for example, to have no healthcare and dreadful living conditions, all the time knowing that you live in the richest country in the world. I guess your personal experience is always just that - personal, but I'm sure the contrast with what others have must make it feel worse somehow.

Anagram Sun 19-Aug-12 10:24:42

They probably don't think about it much - too busy staying alive!

Bags Sun 19-Aug-12 10:34:12

Average life expectancy in the States is still high by global standards, so in spite of not having a national health service (as we understand the term), their poor people are not doing too badly, it would seem. I'm not saying conditions for poor people in the US can't be or shouldn't be improved. I believe Obama is trying to address such things.

Butternut Sun 19-Aug-12 10:43:15

Yep, B - I've often though that if one goes far enough right, and far enough left, on the political 'swingometer', then the two ends will meet, with little, if any, light inbetween.

Nonu Sun 19-Aug-12 10:46:10

Anagram isn"t that the title of a song ?

Annobel Sun 19-Aug-12 10:57:36

Butty*, in the days when I was very active in Amnesty International, it always struck me that extreme right-wing regimes (at the time, Argentina and Chile) accused us of left-wing sympathies and Communist regimes such as China thought of us as right-wing.

whenim64 Sun 19-Aug-12 11:13:15

Ditto Annobel. We would meet in my house and send letters as Amnesty members, so found quite a bit of correspondence appeared to have been opened. Interesting that paranoia about left-wing sympathies was alive and kicking here, too!

Butternut Sun 19-Aug-12 11:13:24

Interesting isn't it Anno, how our (British) understanding of political 'right wing ' and 'left wing' ideals are perceived quite differently in other countries.