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What is worth your anger?

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Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 16:20:17

I don't get angry if somebody disagrees with my honestly held views, even when those of us who have the confidence to engage in reasoned debate are labelled arrogant. I don't get angry when I am 'accused' of being a leftie, a guardian-reader, or even when it is implied that I am part of a clique or a gang of bullies because some other members agree with my views.

I don't get angry when I see a misplaced apostrophe, or a spelling or grammar mistake.

I get angry when I see young men and women being returned to their parents in flag-draped coffins.
I get angry when children are starving in countries that spend billions on arms.
I get angry when people in positions of trust abuse children or vulnerable adults.
I get angry when their employers or superiors cover up their foul deeds.
I get angry when girls/women are beaten, tortured and murdered because they don't conform to their parents' cultural norms.
I get angry when any minority group is subjected to discrimination.
I get angry when I read how many people, mostly with mental health problems, have died in police custody.
I get angry when the religious beliefs of a minority are able to influence laws which affect the whole population.
I get angry when mistaken medical information is used to put lives at risk or people are denied proper treatment for religious reasons.
I get angry when I read of the sick and disabled being terrified almost to the point of suicide by the threat of having their benefits withdrawn.
I get angry when the richest get tax reductions.
I get angry when contracts are not put out to tender honestly.
I get angry when well-fed, smug and rich politicians claim to be feeling the same pain as the people who have lost their jobs and cannot find others.
I get angry when somebody I consider to be a war criminal earns yet another £100,000 for a one hour 'inspirational' talk.
I get angry when so few rapists are convicted and I get very angry when women make false rape claims.
I am angry that the surgeon who ruined the lives of my daughter and at least a dozen other women was allowed to continue working when there were 75 complaints against him between 1999 and 2008.
I get angry that there appeared to be no system in place for picking up on his dismal statistics and that none of his colleagues 'blew the whistle'.
I am angry that he has never apologised.

You could say I am a very angry person but not because of some continuing hostility from a person who has never met me - that is not even mildly irritating because it is predictable enough to be amusing.

So, what do you consider to be worthy of your anger?

kittylester Fri 17-Aug-12 16:30:21

This looks as though it will be an interesting thread!

jeni Fri 17-Aug-12 16:35:00

Blatant liars and cheats!

jeni Fri 17-Aug-12 16:39:56

Oh! And him next door!

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 16:45:49

With you all the way, there, gn. I think that'll do me too. Oh no! Another clique! wink

Barrow Fri 17-Aug-12 16:49:10

I agree with most of your list jeni and have a couple of my own:

When someone is judged by the way they look rather than for what they are
Inconsiderate behaviour
Being ignored by shop assistants
Bad drivers who take risks and put other road users in danger
Telephone cold callers (and even worse the silent calls!)
Call centres manned by people I can't understand (OK that may be my problem as I think I am going a little bit deaf!)

Many more things make me angry but I have to watch my blood pressure!

soop Fri 17-Aug-12 16:49:43

Cruelty. Bigotry. Greed. Tyranny. Utter disregard for another's rights and feelings.

Barrow Fri 17-Aug-12 16:50:58

Sorry that should have been I agree with Greatnan (perhaps I should add people who don't read posts properly to the list!!)

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 16:53:18

Nah, that last one's not worth getting in a tizz about, barrow. Besides, we all do it! grin

AlisonMA Fri 17-Aug-12 16:57:58

I'm with soop and that includes disregards for GNers' feelings too. I still don't subscribe to the idea that everyone likes the rudeness/robustness/arrogance, call it whatever you like, that is sometimes displayed on here. It shows a lack of empathy and courtesy. Such posters seem to think they are in some way superior to others. Thank goodness such posters are few and far between.

soop Fri 17-Aug-12 16:58:26

...and folk who dump their garbage on grass verges...

Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 16:58:51

Not even mild irritation, Barrow - I have frequently done it myself!
I tend to treat inconsiderate drivers and rude sales assistant with a resigned shrug - they don't come into my range of things that make me angry.

soop Fri 17-Aug-12 16:59:39

...and folk who spit on the pavement...

Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 17:01:37

Alison - you really are priceless! Keep up the good work!

Zengran Fri 17-Aug-12 17:03:50

Injustice (of any kind). Cheating (of any kind). People's greed. Causing hurt deliberately.

Anagram Fri 17-Aug-12 17:11:39

I can't see why Alison's post merited such hilarity, Greatnan.
Surely she's entitled to put her views across without attracting such a dismissive response.

jeni Fri 17-Aug-12 17:19:29

Well what is wrong with priceless? Proverbs:- A virtuous woman who can find for her price is far above rubies! It then goes on to describe the everyday life of your average Gnetter!
She rised while it is yet night and makes bread for her household. It goes on to say that she is like a ship laden with goods from afar. It finishes. By saying her household will arise and call her blessed!

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 17:24:52

I think the hilarity is because it's the same point, put across repeatedly on several threads, nag. I get the feeling (could be wrong, natch, but I will no doubt be corrected if I am) that gn is not going to stop putting forward her interesting and robust, but not rude or offensive, posts, and that alison is not going to stop complaining about their rudeness (arrogance, bullying, etc). It is quite amusing in a sighing and shaking the head gently kind of way.

People, and GNHQ, have suggested that anything which is felt to be a personal attack, or which is felt to be bullying, should be reported to them. They DO delete anything that contravenes forum rules. Seems fair to me.

I don't think robustness of view, or even apparent arrogance in a post, is usually regarded as contravening said rules, however unpalatable some people may find such things. That's just life.

AlisonMA Fri 17-Aug-12 17:29:23

I agree with *Zena

I shall take it as a complement greatnan however you intended it.

If I repeat the same point bagsit is becuase I feel strongly that the relevant people might pick up on it eventually, although it is quite possible that they don't even understand what insensitivity is. grin

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 17:29:48

PS I don't always agree with robust posts, but it's fun to have them to argue with. Always look on the bri-ight si-ide of life (Life of Brian). smile

And, by the way, I think both the posters in question post robustly and often provocatively, and am glad of it.

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 17:30:48

I think insensitivity is allowed in the rules. It's a subjective thing, after all.

Anagram Fri 17-Aug-12 17:33:49

I'll get back in my box, then, shall I? grin

Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 17:36:23

Alison is entirely free to post the same comments time after time after virtually every post I make and I am perfectly free to find the predictability amusing. And, of course, Anagram will always agree with her. Hmm....am I being bullied - I could get very hurt by being called arrogant, rude, lacking in empathy, part of a gang or clique - but of course, the remarks could be aimed at other members, couldn't they? Perhaps I am just too sensitive for my own good and the remarks do not refer to me at all. smile
Whatever, as my young relatives say, can we just get back to what makes people angry? I meant really angry, not just a bit ticked off or irritated.

AlisonMA Fri 17-Aug-12 17:37:09

No anagram you hang in there, you have just as much right to say what you think as anyone else and you usually say it in a sensitive manner too smile

Anagram Fri 17-Aug-12 17:43:55

Well of course, I always agree with you Alison! grin