Gransnet forums

Chat

What is worth your anger?

(88 Posts)
Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 16:20:17

I don't get angry if somebody disagrees with my honestly held views, even when those of us who have the confidence to engage in reasoned debate are labelled arrogant. I don't get angry when I am 'accused' of being a leftie, a guardian-reader, or even when it is implied that I am part of a clique or a gang of bullies because some other members agree with my views.

I don't get angry when I see a misplaced apostrophe, or a spelling or grammar mistake.

I get angry when I see young men and women being returned to their parents in flag-draped coffins.
I get angry when children are starving in countries that spend billions on arms.
I get angry when people in positions of trust abuse children or vulnerable adults.
I get angry when their employers or superiors cover up their foul deeds.
I get angry when girls/women are beaten, tortured and murdered because they don't conform to their parents' cultural norms.
I get angry when any minority group is subjected to discrimination.
I get angry when I read how many people, mostly with mental health problems, have died in police custody.
I get angry when the religious beliefs of a minority are able to influence laws which affect the whole population.
I get angry when mistaken medical information is used to put lives at risk or people are denied proper treatment for religious reasons.
I get angry when I read of the sick and disabled being terrified almost to the point of suicide by the threat of having their benefits withdrawn.
I get angry when the richest get tax reductions.
I get angry when contracts are not put out to tender honestly.
I get angry when well-fed, smug and rich politicians claim to be feeling the same pain as the people who have lost their jobs and cannot find others.
I get angry when somebody I consider to be a war criminal earns yet another £100,000 for a one hour 'inspirational' talk.
I get angry when so few rapists are convicted and I get very angry when women make false rape claims.
I am angry that the surgeon who ruined the lives of my daughter and at least a dozen other women was allowed to continue working when there were 75 complaints against him between 1999 and 2008.
I get angry that there appeared to be no system in place for picking up on his dismal statistics and that none of his colleagues 'blew the whistle'.
I am angry that he has never apologised.

You could say I am a very angry person but not because of some continuing hostility from a person who has never met me - that is not even mildly irritating because it is predictable enough to be amusing.

So, what do you consider to be worthy of your anger?

Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 18:22:45

nanaej - I am in total agreement with your post. I do admire you for doing something positive about the things that make you angry.

nanaej Fri 17-Aug-12 18:15:36

I also get angry about most of the things onGreatnan's list but only irritated by stuff like chewing gum, shop assistants, airports etc. I find I keep my anger for big things and either ignore irritations or else make a formal complaint/take action on the irritations!

I am a marcher /protester/ activist for the things that really anger me and for the causes I hold dear.
I am frequently angry with politicians who think I am stupid & treat me and other members of the electorate with contempt!

soop Fri 17-Aug-12 18:13:09

Hunt...you make sense. flowers

baNANA Fri 17-Aug-12 18:12:35

Just thought of another thing lap dancing clubs in high streets. Wish they could be somewhere else, preferably not in areas where there are ordinary shops, schools, places of worship etc. We have a time share in Bournemouth where we go for a week a year and have noticed a proliferation of these places and I have heard locals say they have changed the nature of their town and it is not always a pleasant place to be on Friday/Saturday nights.

Hunt Fri 17-Aug-12 18:07:40

I find that being angry makes me feel worse than the person I might be angry with.So I try not to do it.

kittylester Fri 17-Aug-12 18:05:50

I agree Anagram

Anagram Fri 17-Aug-12 18:01:17

Bags doesn't do hostile.

Annobel Fri 17-Aug-12 17:59:18

Angry with people who spit out their chewing gum and leave disgusting blobs all over the pavement. And those who don't pick up their dogs faeces. Agree wholeheartedly with Greatnan's litany and all other examples of pet hates.
Robust is not necessarily insensitive and to disagree is not necessarily to despise or feel superior to anyone with an opposing point of view.For example, I know there have been times when some Gnetters have taken exception to Bags's strongly expressed views on climate change but haven't noticed her getting hostile about it.

baNANA Fri 17-Aug-12 17:58:53

Pretty much all of your list, the last ones being personal to you. I think you've probably covered cruelty to anyone vulnerable, or indeed anyone at all, but would add I hate cruelty to animals also find that really upsetting. Minor annoyance compared to the more serious matters you have listed is mums and dads who let their children make lots of noise, and worse still run around in restaurants and coffee shops that gets on my nerves these days.

vampirequeen Fri 17-Aug-12 17:48:40

I get angry with people who dismiss mental health problems as not being real illnesses or think all people with mental health problems are potential murderers.

I get angry with parents who dress their children like little adults.

I get angry with parents who let their children watch inappropriate TV then wonder where they've learned the bad language/behaviours.

AlisonMA Fri 17-Aug-12 17:44:59

Then I'll have to find a way for us to disagree Anagram grin Politely of course!

Golightly Fri 17-Aug-12 17:44:45

Luton Airport! Just dropped off the grandchildren there today (with my son!) Hate everything about it from trying to park in the car park, the VERY high cost of parking even for a short time, the long, windy and sometimes wet, long walk to the terminal building (which is also not safe for young children when you are struggling with luggage et al) and the gloomy entrance way and the awful cramped queue for security. Of course you can pay extra (for just about everything at Luton) for a swifter service. Avoid if at all possible!

Anagram Fri 17-Aug-12 17:43:55

Well of course, I always agree with you Alison! grin

AlisonMA Fri 17-Aug-12 17:37:09

No anagram you hang in there, you have just as much right to say what you think as anyone else and you usually say it in a sensitive manner too smile

Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 17:36:23

Alison is entirely free to post the same comments time after time after virtually every post I make and I am perfectly free to find the predictability amusing. And, of course, Anagram will always agree with her. Hmm....am I being bullied - I could get very hurt by being called arrogant, rude, lacking in empathy, part of a gang or clique - but of course, the remarks could be aimed at other members, couldn't they? Perhaps I am just too sensitive for my own good and the remarks do not refer to me at all. smile
Whatever, as my young relatives say, can we just get back to what makes people angry? I meant really angry, not just a bit ticked off or irritated.

Anagram Fri 17-Aug-12 17:33:49

I'll get back in my box, then, shall I? grin

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 17:30:48

I think insensitivity is allowed in the rules. It's a subjective thing, after all.

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 17:29:48

PS I don't always agree with robust posts, but it's fun to have them to argue with. Always look on the bri-ight si-ide of life (Life of Brian). smile

And, by the way, I think both the posters in question post robustly and often provocatively, and am glad of it.

AlisonMA Fri 17-Aug-12 17:29:23

I agree with *Zena

I shall take it as a complement greatnan however you intended it.

If I repeat the same point bagsit is becuase I feel strongly that the relevant people might pick up on it eventually, although it is quite possible that they don't even understand what insensitivity is. grin

Bags Fri 17-Aug-12 17:24:52

I think the hilarity is because it's the same point, put across repeatedly on several threads, nag. I get the feeling (could be wrong, natch, but I will no doubt be corrected if I am) that gn is not going to stop putting forward her interesting and robust, but not rude or offensive, posts, and that alison is not going to stop complaining about their rudeness (arrogance, bullying, etc). It is quite amusing in a sighing and shaking the head gently kind of way.

People, and GNHQ, have suggested that anything which is felt to be a personal attack, or which is felt to be bullying, should be reported to them. They DO delete anything that contravenes forum rules. Seems fair to me.

I don't think robustness of view, or even apparent arrogance in a post, is usually regarded as contravening said rules, however unpalatable some people may find such things. That's just life.

jeni Fri 17-Aug-12 17:19:29

Well what is wrong with priceless? Proverbs:- A virtuous woman who can find for her price is far above rubies! It then goes on to describe the everyday life of your average Gnetter!
She rised while it is yet night and makes bread for her household. It goes on to say that she is like a ship laden with goods from afar. It finishes. By saying her household will arise and call her blessed!

Anagram Fri 17-Aug-12 17:11:39

I can't see why Alison's post merited such hilarity, Greatnan.
Surely she's entitled to put her views across without attracting such a dismissive response.

Zengran Fri 17-Aug-12 17:03:50

Injustice (of any kind). Cheating (of any kind). People's greed. Causing hurt deliberately.

Greatnan Fri 17-Aug-12 17:01:37

Alison - you really are priceless! Keep up the good work!

soop Fri 17-Aug-12 16:59:39

...and folk who spit on the pavement...