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Missing Schoolgirl Megan Stammers.

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dorsetpennt Wed 26-Sept-12 09:33:10

In the late 60's my then husband and I attended a dinner dance and met a school friend of his - we were in our early 20's. This chap had a History degree from Oxford and had taken a post-grad course in teaching. He was extremely lucky to get a post at a well known excellent London state school teaching history to 5th and 6th formers. He loved teaching but found the girls particularly difficult. Bearing in mind his age and that of the other teachers, he was their generation, enjoyed the same music, fashion etc. The girls were overtly sexual towards him, dropped off little love notes in his brief case, followed him home and knocked on his door, found out which pub he frequented etc etc. Unlike the teacher in Megan's case, he did not take up any offers and kept himself as aloof as possible.
We met him again a year later and by then he'd left the school and was teaching at an all boys grammer school and was much happier.
I'm not condoning Jeremy Forrest's behaviour, as an adult man in his 30's he should certainly know a lot better. Does he really think he can get away with this, that he won't be caught, that she isn't going to start to miss her mum and friends. She is only 15 years old for goodness sake. He will be on the sexual criminal register and will never be able to teach in this country again.
My point is that Megan may have behaved like the girls I talked about and he encouraged it [probably jokingly at first] and took it further.
With help she will get over this, in time realise what a creep he is and she will meet a decent boy nearer her age.
He on the other hand will have lost his job, his wife, probably most of his friends, no one will trust him near their young daughters, he has ruined his life. GOOD

Bags Mon 01-Oct-12 05:56:00

How refreshing you are, jings! grin

Butternut Mon 01-Oct-12 07:58:52

With you there, B. smile

Greatnan Mon 01-Oct-12 08:03:37

Actually, Spekie, I am keeping Swiss hours at the moment!

Greatnan Mon 01-Oct-12 08:04:15

Speckie! Must get names right!

Elegran Mon 01-Oct-12 10:05:12

Agree with Jingle that the Bandura thing does explain in detail that rain falls downwards, but a lot of the comments at the end were on the lines "this has helped me with my work" which makes me think it is aimed at social work students who are pretty young and inexperienced - and need a good quote for their essays.

The Bobo doll experiment did demonstrate experimentally (and quotably for the students) what we all know but some parents forget - a good example is better than a thousand words. It was also interesting that the boys copied a male model more readily, given that many boys who go off the rails have no male role models in their lives.

Oldgreymare Mon 01-Oct-12 10:06:04

... and now Sir Jimmy Savile enters the fray!
A position of power, fame etc can be a powerful aphrodisiac...sad

JO4 Mon 01-Oct-12 10:07:49

Yes Bags. But it's the fine line between being refreshing, and putting my size 7s right in the cack again, that is the problem. Sigh! hmm

Bags Mon 01-Oct-12 10:09:15

Same problem we all have, jings.

JO4 Mon 01-Oct-12 10:12:02

Yep Elegran. Boys need dads.

NShS!

whenim64 Mon 01-Oct-12 10:14:38

The 'Bandura thing' you refer to is a simple explanation of a lifetime's work that has helped social care organisations across the world research and develop practice and policy in child protection, children's psychological services, and offender management Elegran. Reading that simplistic explanation, which is indeed intended for students at a foundation grade, is like looking in the Beano for an explanation of rocket science. grin

JO4 Mon 01-Oct-12 10:15:33

You could do worse.

glammanana Mon 01-Oct-12 11:17:52

This thread was started with a topic which was not very pleasent at all but it has shown how much GNers are so well read and educated as to the problem discussed.Well done and respect to everyone who has commented.

crimson Mon 01-Oct-12 11:44:23

It also shows that, although we're getting old [National Old Persons Day Today, I think] we still care deeply for the society we live in and the challenges that society faces; something that is constantly changing.

gracesmum Mon 01-Oct-12 11:47:30

"National Old Persons' Day" indeed!! Do we wave our knitting and brandish our pension books? Who on earth designated it as such and who on earth knows about it(except us?)

JO4 Mon 01-Oct-12 11:52:41

When exactly do we turn into this different person, an "old person"? They seem able to move the pensionable age, so that can't be it.

crimson Mon 01-Oct-12 12:00:33

Yerright there, jings.They can't call us pensioners any more as they won't give us our pensions any more. 'Peopleofacertainagewhoarenotentitledto anythinganymore'. Our raison d'etre being as a punch bag for policyless politicians. Has anyone noticed I'm in a very stroppy mood today?

crimson Mon 01-Oct-12 12:00:53

grin

Ana Mon 01-Oct-12 12:08:03

Yes, I did crimson! And it's a good thing, in my book, to have an occasional stroppy post! wink

Bags Mon 01-Oct-12 12:26:34

I expect we turn into old people the same way children turn into adults – at varying rates and at various ages.

absentgrana Mon 01-Oct-12 13:30:13

And, perhaps like children becoming adults, some don't ever become old people. smile

JO4 Mon 01-Oct-12 14:11:44

It doesn't work like that Bags. We don't change inside. Just our bodies get a bit frail with time. We are still the same people. Our minds still work just as effectively as ever. (unless there is an illness, of course)

We do not need a special label.

petallus Mon 01-Oct-12 16:37:11

I've kept detailed journals for the last forty odd years and when I read through them I sometimes have a chuckle and sometimes feel alarmed at what I was like then.

Different to now.

I hope I've changed for the better through being older and wiser and less fiery.

Grannyeggs Mon 01-Oct-12 16:52:08

I agree jingle, we are the same as we were 20 years ago just a bit wiser (?), and maybe a bit more understanding.

JO4 Mon 01-Oct-12 16:57:10

We can only hope Grannyeggs. (love the name)

Greatnan Mon 01-Oct-12 17:05:38

I don't think I am a better person now than I was in my 40's - I just don't have the same opportunities to be disgraceful any more! grin