Not welcomed by Social Worker.

How much more minutiae do we need on this before we all die of it?

That's where you did the dastardly deed shame on you!

Hi gillybob

One rule of dementia is to agree with the patient wherever possible so I did not correct him on Andie's breed.

I made sure that the meal was paid for as the NHS may have spent £100 to chase £8.00 for 2 meals.

I have never been to Alnwick. I did go to Edinburgh about 10 years ago.

Frank

I do hope you put that resident right PDQ HUNTERF with the correct breed of your dog, or he/she might make that stupid mistake again sometime in the future .

Could the gentleman who thought you had stolen from him in Berwick got himself mixed up and it was Alnwick or Edinburgh maybe?

I am glad to hear you paid for the meal too or the cost would have no doubt been added to the monthly charges.

Sorry Frank

#loseswilltolive - again!

Obviously!

Just to say the daughter met her mother at the nursing home and she seems to be settling in reasonably well.
I went to get a few bits for the mother and we took Andie around the gardens.
It is a secure nursing home and 1 of the residents took a dislike to me. I am supposed to have stolen something from him in Berwick which would have been difficult as I have never been there.
I think the home has everything which people with dementia will need. I am just glad the daughter stood her ground as the Social Worker said the home could not be funded by the NHS but she could go there if she was self funded even though the mother met NHS funding criteria.
They have obviously funded it to get the mother out of hospital.
One of the residents thought Andie was a Westie. I did not think that was bad for somebody with dementia. He is more of a cream colour instead of white.
We had a meal with the mother and I thought the food was good. Obviously we paid for it.

Frank

Hi annodomini

I will sleep well knowing the daughter will be sleeping in the jointly owned house which she will inherit in the future.
As far as I am concerned the law is the law and I do not see why a social worker should try and cause an expensive house to be sold unlawfully.

Frank

gillybob goodnight, sleep well.

Sorry all. Don't know why I bothered to waste 5 minutes of precious sleep commenting on this thread!

Frank you seem to genuinely care about protecting assets for those who have them to protect and then in another breath thread think that only those who have been fortunate enough to earn enough to contribute to a private pension have the right to any comfort in their old age. Are you really that bitter and twisted?

Hi whenim64

Just to assure you the mother is being cared for I have agreed to be at the hospital with the daughter when the mother leaves and we will then travel to the nursing home and the daughter will be able to concentrate on the mother.
I will take her clothes to the room and put them away.
If the nurse says something is needed urgently I will go and get it but I am sure it will be rare for residents to arrive with everything they need.
The mother began worrying about her money today but the daughter assured her she was looking after it and she will get it back when she is better.
She is convinced she will leave the home soon but sadly this is very unlikely to happen.
She was also convinced the house will be sold which her daughter is living in but I think the daughter managed to assure it will not happen.

Frank

Agree wholeheartedly with your last two sentences Frank .

Hi Nonu

I will visit people in care.
I do have to be careful however not to become a profesional visitor or funeral attender.
I do have to do things for my grandchildren as well.
Everybody in a family has their place / function.

Frank

You enjoy visiting with people , so will not be a chore !

Another thing I forgot to mention.
The care home did say they try to take the residents for a walk in the garden once a day but they did say phone if nobody is coming and a member of staff will try to take them for a walk.
They do not tend to walk residents when they are expecting visitors.

Frank

Hi whenim64

The mother is lucky that the daughter is early retired and has the time and money to be able to do the visits.
It must be difficult for the offspring if they are still at work to visit.
I was fortunate in a way to get early retirement / redundancy in London with an immediate pension which enabled me to go back to Birmingham where my daughters lived as well.
I got a part time job but got made redundant and given another small immediate pension.
As I said before my father never had to go in to care and I was with him for most of his final years and my daughters helped as well.
He enjoyed playing with his great granddaughters but he said he never really got accustomed to being a great grandparent.
I have to admit I have only just becomed accustomed to being a grandad as my father has only passed away a year ago.

Frank

Good to hear that this is one elderly person whose stay will be watched, Frank.

Hi whenim64

The daughter is going to visit most days and I will visit occasionally.
Other relatives will also visit so I think she will be ok.
Sadly from my experience of nursing homes I do know residents do fall and all risk can not be eliminated unless you confine them to bed.
I am sure the family will do all they can for her.
I will go on my own to visit her should no family member be available but I don't think that is ideal as I have not known her for long.

Frank

Hi Lilygran

I know various people have been involved, a Social Worker, NHS Continuing Health Care Nurse and a Mental Health Nurse.
I went with the daughter and saw the Social Worker and on my advice she said she would get a solicitor involved if the NHS did not fund her mothers care as she was convinced her mother was an NHS Continuing Care Case as her needs were mainly health.
The NHS has to therefore pay all of the fees if the person is having to go in to care for mainly health problems.
In my opinion it appears because of the money situation NHS is not given automatically to everyone who is entitled to it.
As I said the social worker first said the house would have to be sold to fund the care which was incorrect as the daughter is a joint owner occupier.
As the daughter would not stand that the Social Worker then started to talk about Social Funding where the Council and NHS would pay part of the fees but the daughter stood her ground and full NHS Continuing Care Funding was agreed by the next day.
As a last statement the Social Worker even asked if the daughter had ever had financial advice to see if she could pay part of the bill but she just said sternly she was not paying.

Frank

Well, good to know a place has been found, and I sincerely hope that the behavioural problems of some of the residents don't distress this lady in the last year of her life. Presumably, she will be having reguar visits and checks on her safety

Frank Was it a social worker or a carer or a nurse? And I believe the payment the NHS makes is standard at around £100 a week. There will be GNers out there who have professional experience in this field who will know. It worries me that you are bad-mouthing a whole group of people, 'social workers', when you apparently have no idea who you've been dealing with or what the provisions are! .

Hi

I think everybody who has contributed to this thread will be pleased that a care home has been found for the mother.
19 homes looked at her and they would not take her mainly due to behaviour problems.
I went along with the daughter to look at it and it appears to be nice and well ran and it has 24 hour security as the residents can sometimes be violent and a danger if they get on the street.
It was meal time and we had a bit of the food.
One of the residents pointed at me and shouted out murderer. Obviously he does not know what he is doing.
The mother is being transferred on Monday.
Oddly enough the Social Worker / Care Nurse said this was one of the best care homes but they could not finance this home as it is too expensive ( nearly £1,000 per week ).
Obviously the NHS has had to finance it as the mother has been taking up a bed at the hospital and that is the only way they will get her out.
The mother is upset as she has been told she is leaving. She has been in that hospital since before christmas.
The only slight down side is it is 14 miles from the house the daughter is now in and the daughter intends to visit most days.
Obviously the daughter will not move as the mother is only expected to live for about a year.

Frank

Not at all gracesmum.

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