Has it got boring?

I know where Barrow is, DH went there after Swans closed and that is why I have a home in Cumbria.

Hmmm harrigranwell the James Clark Ross was launched in 1990 (23 years ago).

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Barrow is not exactly in the North East of England it is in Cumbria.

Many grandmas visit their grandchild when they are at uni so wouldn't say that is anything special at all.

North east is definitely on Queen's radar, she launched the James Clark Ross at Swan Hunters. She also visited her GD at the uni and visited as part of her diamond jubilee celebrations.
I have heard though when Prince Philip was to visit the shipyard in Barrow the Queen told him to wear the fox hat

Hmmmm that's an interesting one Marelli . I would tend to say NEW-castle with the emphasis on the NEW. However my accent is slightly "softer" from those nearer to The Borders. I love to hear Aberdeen said in that gorgeous Scottish accent.

I'm never sure whether to pronounce Newcastle as NEWcastle or NewCASTLE. What's the right way?
I have friends from the South who pronounce Aberdeen as ABERdeen, whereas I, and other Scots that I know, would pronounce it AberDEEN.

Purely as a matter of interest I wonder how far South you need to travel before the "R" pops in ?

When does South become Sarth
Newcastle become NewCarstle
Bath become Barth
laugh become larf
Etc.

Hope no-one taking any offence at this it is meant as fun.

There is a difference too between bah'th and bar'th - and newcah'ssel and newcar'ssel, the difference being where the tongue is between the A and the TH. Those Rs get everywhere.

Hmmm that's a tough one Bags just tried saying it out loud a few times and have come out with Sing-a-paw as in sing a song. There is a G in there somewhere but it's hardly recognisable.

The inhabitants of Bath would say Baarth though. I would put the r in Newcastle just as I would in castle, but I am a southerner with an RP accent. I don't think that you can say there is a wrong and a right way really.
Have to say I do get annoyed when Anglophones here start pronouncing every French word in an exaggeratedly French fashion when talking to other native English speakers. Paree would really grate.
Probably very unreasonable of me.....

Go it, gillybob! (I knew you weren't getting upset, by the way, just having a laff).

Who puts a g in Singapore, and who doesn't? Hands up, hands up!

Goof morning all. Well at least this is no longer a boring thread is it?

JessM I think that the native speakers of any given town or city are probably the ones who have the correct pronunciation and I am not "getting upset" about anything at all. This started only because I pointed out that parcel does not rhyme with Newcastle ( unless you pop the invisible R into it). Bath is probably another example. Where is the "R" in Bath?

I know there is a silent "P" in Bath but that's another story entirely

JessM Totally off the point but then isn't that the usual way? Your post has just reminded me of a wonderful blooper I heard on the radio news many years ago about a plane travelling between "Hangcok and Bang Kong".

Can I suggest gillybob that instead of getting upset about pronunciation you just lie back and enjoy our differences - if Hugh (the news) Edwards or anyone else from Wales says "newcarsle" it is just part of his lovely educated Welsh accent. He always says castle like that. If you pronounce the city Bath with a hard A, that is part of your accent, which I am sure I would enjoy hearing, and not an insult to the people of Bath. And if the whole of the world with the exception of those who grew up in the West Midlands fail dismally to pronounce the hard G in the middle of Birmingham then , well, that is just, well, because we don't have a lovely Brummie accent. It is still one of the few words that reveal my husband's origins. The other one is Hong Kong, both words pronounced with a very definite hard G.

So gillybob as a Geordie you insist that Newcastle is correctly pronounced Newcassel , so how do you say Paris?

This isn't so boring now

We may have become boring, or more laid back, but it has been balm for me as my life has gone a bit bonkers at the moment. Can I let you know when I can cope with controversy again?

I can't change now gillybob and I am sure the queen knows how to speak English even if she didn't have a plum in her mouth. If you went anywhere in the world people would pronounce Newcastle differently, though in Newcastle in Australia I think they pronounce it exactly the same way as you do probably because that is how it is meant to be pronounced.

Oops sorry Faye didn't mean to put your name in inverted commas previously.

How does the queen pronounce Newcastle "Faye" ? Well there's a question.

Firstly I would guess she probably doesn't unless she is forced to, as I honestly think the North East of England is not really on her radar.

Secondly I think the queen speaks "plum in mouth English" which is a special language without any dialect and reserved for her (and the rest of her family) and is not necessarily the correct pronunciation of anything.

I love the way you Geordies say Newcastle, try as I might I can`t copy it!

Oh silly me there must have been an R in Newcastle all the time and here's me a born and bred Geordie who didn't realise!

JessM the correct pronunciation of bath (as in the vessel) for us Northerners is actually "bath" just as you would look at it without the silent or invisible R for those who a referring to the City I guess it depend where you come from and whether or not you chose to pop in the R .

How does the Queen pronounce Newcastle, I am sure she has the Queen's English right down to a t. I am from Adelaide gillybob and we do speak slightly differently from other Aussies. Have to admit Newcassel grates for me.

Obviously not R4 then stnsgran

I continue to say newcarsle partly to annoy partly because bbc radio new cassel has a load of ungrammatical presenters and proud of their ignorance. Don't know whether or not they are educated and fake it to be one of the people like politicians . (I listen for the traffic and weather in the morning)

What's the "correct" pronunciation of bath and indeed Bath then gillybob ?

Oops sorry my pervious post was for Faye