Hasn't some of Gransnet got shrill?

I think there has been a lot of unpleasantness .

Excoriating , Quite unacceptable and most in poor taste .

By the by , I would thank GM"s who pm"d with kind words , I will reply later.

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I cannot agree about private messages. I would rather have things out on the boards where they be dealt with fairly, rather than having unpleasant messages turn up in my inbox.

A lot of this so called "nastiness" on Gransnet has been exaggerated. It is quite acceptable for people to have strong views on this, and other suibjects. There hasn't been that much unpleasantness. And what there has been has been made worse by threads about threads. IMO

Why don't you use private message when someone irritate you. We all don't to moan moan . If my opinion offends someone or something I would keep it between me and who ever. I was just telling my daughter today about some of the things being said. She agreed it's up to each persons opinions and hopefully not to offend. So come on gransnet take a deep breath and treat others as to how you would like to be treated. Anne09

Why read a thread if it gets your gander up? If I do not like the way a thread I am interested in is going, I leave and don't not come back. For example I dipped into the MT thread, made one posting, looked at it briefly a couple of times later, didn't like the way the thread was going and haven't looked at it for days.

Surely it is possible to disagree profoundly with the views and opinions someone expresses without getting personal. I always think that personal attacks are only used when one side in an argument is unable to counter the other's points.

I agree with you Ceesnan

I really hate the sneering remarks that have been made in the last few days. Is it not possible to express an opinion without resorting to sarcasm?

Thank goodness I scrolled up!!! I saw the first line on its own and , well..........., suffice it to say I wouldn't use these terms myself..

WTF and FO ,

two different meanings entirely

Eloethan Yes, I think there's a difference between using the F-word in a general way to express annoyance, and directing it at someone personally.
For example, if one of my children told me to fuck off I would be upset, but if they said what the fuck? to mean they couldn't understand something it wouldn't bother me.
I am not clear why voicing an objection to swearing makes me "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells".

jane you seemed to be differentiating between j08s wtf and bluebell 's *FO" and saying that the former was OK but the latter was unacceptable. If you were not saying that, what was the point of the comment?

I was suggesting that what is offensive to one person is not offensive to another. Surely as grown-ups we can cope with this without morphing into "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells".

Surely there should be no personal attacks on anyone. Challenge and attack someones views by all means, but it can't be beyond our capabilities to debate without resorting to name calling

I think one more thing needs to be included in the guidelines on forum etiquette - no member criticises, or even implies criticism, of any other member's family. I have taken a lot of personal attacks in my time, and they don't bother me as mostly they are from people whose opinion I do not respect, but if anyone dared to be critical of my family it would be a different matter.

Mind you, it is only a website forum on the effing internet.

#gettingabitheavy

And hopefully with a bit of compassion.

Bluebell was feeling very "set upon". She felt that even her daughter was being included.

Just saying. Up to HQ really, how it's dealt with. Fairly I hope.

POGS This is not a thread about a thread about a thread. The OP is a comment about the general tone of postings on Gransnet on a variety of threads – not all of them related to Margaret Thatcher.

Elegran. I agree with your first post.

This is a thread about a thread about a thread about a thread. Another thread asked did we need all these threads prior to this one.

The wording of the OP, like a lot of OP's on other threads ,has an irony to it as the majority of us will view it's content naturally from our own perspective. That is precisely why and how we 'debate', if we didn't then it would merely be a posters 'statement' and what would be the point of joining in. After all the posts on all threads 'do invite others to reply', unless making a statement was the intention all along.

However it has got 'shrill', 'nasty' whatever you want to call it on a couple of threads. I have seen worse before and whilst it can become distasteful it is good to be able to see, consider and make a conclusion based on what we read for ourselves about each poster and how the issues arise. I would hate for GN to delete posts for that reason but I feel it is getting a bit close to call.

Yes eloethan I am expressing a personal view - your point is ....?

jingl when I get really upset I do not use foul language nor do most of the people I know. Being upset is not an excuse to let rip at another.

jain so what you are illustrating is that it's all a matter of personal perception and taste.

jo8 you writing wtf doesn't bother me, but poster A telling poster B to FO certain does.

I think "foul language" is almost bound to come out when a person gets really upset. There are worse things on the world than a few wtf' s.

The debates at the moment that are causing all this soul searching are about Mrs T. Most people that have posted have very strong feelings one way or the other. Some people, however, are unwilling to address the issues but have either made veiled sarcastic comments or have implied that certain points of view are morally unacceptable.

We are not children. Are only matters that are non-contentious to be discussed here? Should we go back to being old-fashioned grannies/granddads and concentrate on jam making and vegetable growing?