Vajacial - is it only me, or ...?

Oh, I agree, I just find the very thought really creepy.

GrannyknotIt may be creepy, but it is a reasonable conclusion to come to.

I have always thought that men who liked their women hairless would really prefer a little girl.

Flickety and Flower that is downright creepy.

I can remember getting the giggles and feeling "ughh", when the two daughters of a friend were telling me about when they moved to Belgium and went to school (English girls who moved from here to America and then to Brussels.) Evidently their school friends not only didn't shave under their arms, but used to have to a thing about plaiting each other's under arm hairs!

Extraordinarily, there is also a huge increase in women having genital surgery because they think they don't look "normal".

We laugh at the idea of women in the old days being squeezed into corsets that made them ill, but, we don't seem to have moved on much.

Flowerofthewest do not apologise, I too think it shows a worrying preference for the pre-pubescent and would challenge any woman who said they did it because men preferred it or any man who expressed a preference.

Eloethhan, yes I heard/read that same report

no shaving or enemas now at birth time!

Shaving women before they gave birth seemed to be obligatory when I had my daughter. And afterwards I was so itchy and uncomfortable. I don't think it happened when my son was born 7 years later.

I think there was some research that found that, although shaving was done for reasons of hygiene, it actually increased the risk of infection. (But no doubt there was another piece of research that said the opposite).

my sister and her friends were discussing intimate examinations at GP. One friend 's nurse found a postage stamps stuck to her hair. The nurse offered it to her with a pair of tweezers! Another had used glitter spray instead of intimate deodorant and her GP said on examining her" Thanks for making the effort!" , just a couple of little anecdotes.

Hairless seems a bit odd to me, why and do men prefer it. It (and just my opinion) just seems a little pre-pubescent and I worry about the kind of men who prefer this naked 'front bottom'!! (as I said just my opinion)

And once you start....

I wonder why hairlessness is considered so attractive??

In my, admittedly limited, experience I don't think my passion for anyone or theirs for me has depended on the trimming of pubes!

I admit I do not want to be the bearded lady and that is a daily battle now but I don't have time to de-pube as well!

They shaved me when I had my first baby. I thought I looked like a plucked chicken! They didn't bother when no 2 came along.

May I, a mere male, say that I find the shaven mons quite unattractive? Not that it makes any practical difference these days, but that's getting old for you...

Mine is disappearing already, including my eyebrows! Still a lot on my head, thank goodness. I see a lot of young men in the local swimming pool who appear to have had their bodies and legs waxed,despite the tiny speedos I don't know about any where else. there is a shop not far away called Strip which does waxing and I believe they are always busy.I have never had a wax.

The complete irradication of body hair pubic,arms,legs and chest [for men of course,I hope] is very popular in the US for both sexes. Shaving under arms has been going on for hundreds of years for women. As well as not wanting a massive under arm bush whilst wearing a pretty gown it was also used to cut down on the smell of sweat. Shaving legs started in the 1920's because of course skirts/dresses were shorter and it then became a habit. I don't think porn started the trend for pubic shaving, mainly personal preference. Why are they plucking out the hair when they could go for a Brazilian wax, painful but quick unlike the tweezer method.
I remember in the '60s going on holiday to France and being horrified by the number of women who didn't shave their underarms.

Shysal Me too! I tried having a close bikini wax before I went on holiday a few years ago. Both times I ended up with such a red and uncomfortable rash at the top of my legs. This looked worse than the effect I got from just carefully trimming the extra hairs around the legs of my swimming cossie. Never again!

anno, I don't think my body hair will ever go away, it is just as thick and black as ever. I have never been sure where my pubes end and leg hair begins! I shave daily up to the bikini line only, I am sure regrowth around the privates must be itchy and scratchy. I'm all for leaving the 'lady garden' in it's natural state, but the facial and underarm hair has to go!

So sad that there seem to be even more pressures on young women to conform to other people's ideas than there were in our day.

As Lucy says
"The amount of information and the number of influences we encounter bombard us as never before. We need to take care that they do not overwhelm us."

Such is the power of the internet and social media and I think today's parents have a really tough job trying to counteract it.

I'm more exercised by the confusing use of the word 'vagina' instead of 'labia'

Nanaej. Yes they do. It's called Back, Sack, and Crack.

Leave well alone! Its more pressure on women to be put into a mindframe of hating their bodies. Thats what worries me.

Do blokes wax their bits???

How far we have travelled since John Ruskin divorced his wife for having pubic hair! Today he could have had her waxed, moisturised and bejewelled (Not certain he'd have liked that version either!)

Back in the 60's I remember reading aletter from a girl asking an agony aunt about shaving, because she wasn't sure how much hair she should be removing. The suggestion that she should worry about more than legs and armpits was greeted with great hilarity. I was always led to believe that it was an area that could look after itself health and hygeine wise and required nothing more than a simple wash. I can't imagine that the constant waxing, plucking and creaming can be a good thing.

Remember sitting behind my DS1 and his fairly new girlfriend (now wife) after picking up two cats from a cats home (this cost them £50 per cat) She was bemoaning the fact that now they had paid for the cats she could no longer afford to be waxed. Something I really did not want to be party to. Its crazy how the 'natural' look is seen by the young to be unnatural! madness. Surely the hair is there for a reason.

Apparently it's so common with young women now that it is almost expected. I've read that research has shown it's common for teenagers to access porn on the internet. Young men think that's the way women should be and they find the "natural look" disgusting.