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What happened to English grammar?

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Greatnan Tue 06-Aug-13 07:15:56

Headline in The Daily Mail:
The death of the man who sunk the Belgrano: Falklands Navy hero Sir John 'Sandy' Woodward dies aged 81

Greatnan Sun 11-Aug-13 15:34:10

His prediction could be right - I am always finding new friends on Gransnet, but all except one have remained friends! (And I met her elsewhere anyway!)

deserving Sun 11-Aug-13 15:32:23

apropos of nothing

Galen Sun 11-Aug-13 15:30:40

I've been reading files in my courtyard. Come in to cool off.(and check on the soup and bolognese sauce!)

gracesmum Sun 11-Aug-13 15:29:57

Oh another thought - perhaps deserving's last post is some sort of mystical prediction ? Reading the tea leaves perhaps??
"You will find new born friends, for a while" - no tall dark handsome stranger though sad

gracesmum Sun 11-Aug-13 15:26:37

I wonder if deserving is a particular admirer of the Churchillian style of rhetoric? If you pause at each comma as the great man might have done, with just the slightest upward inflection - you get an echo of the "We shall fight them on the beaches, (pause), ....we shall never, (pause), surrender ...." effect!!grin
Anyway there are more fun ways to spend a Sunday afternoon - even the ironing is an attractive alternative.

petallus Sun 11-Aug-13 15:15:49

Oh wad some power the giftie gie us
To see ourselves as ithers see us

Bags Sun 11-Aug-13 14:54:52

sigh

chuckle

grin

Elegran Sun 11-Aug-13 14:26:47

Just fighting fire with fire. I know a few long words too.

Galen Sun 11-Aug-13 14:22:45

elegran is it contagious?

Elegran Sun 11-Aug-13 14:19:32

True. If a comment is impenetrable, commenting on it is farting in the wind, not worth the effort.

Some comments, of course, are designed purely to draw forth other, predictable, responses. To reply or not then depends on whether one wishes to continue a fabricated confrontation or move elsewhere, where a more fruitful conversation may be going on.

deserving Sun 11-Aug-13 14:11:06

You don't even recognise an apology when it stares you in the face?
How can the impenetrable be commented on. Although I do not accept the premise you have formulated.others will ,no doubt, take up the cudgel, in your name,and you will find new born friends, for a while.

grumppa Sun 11-Aug-13 14:04:33

Deserving says, "Thoughts that occur can sometimes be likened to first impressions. Often those first impressions we are warned about having, are correct." First Impressions was the working title of Pride and Prejudice, which came to the opposite conclusion to deserving's.

Against this background, Galen's comments are particularly shrewd!

Greatnan Sun 11-Aug-13 14:00:22

I don't comment on members' spelling or grammar. I simply find your style of writing impenetrable. Perhaps others don't.

deserving Sun 11-Aug-13 13:42:07

Sorry, I was about to make a nasty remark, it ,believe me or not, doesn't become me. It was you, Gnan who first quoted, to me that members were not likely to comment on others spelling, grammar etc. That was a long time ago, wasn't relevant then, and is even less relevant now.I will stick with my practice, of not getting ,my retaliations in first,although I might allude to something, be it a little obscure or not.

Galen Sun 11-Aug-13 13:38:16

Am I getting (even more) demented. Or is the demon alcohol destroying my neurones faster than I realise?
I fail to understand deserving's post in its entirety. But then that is normal for me!
I think I'll stick to Jane Austin and commissioners decisions in future!

Greatnan Sun 11-Aug-13 13:37:24

Nonu - perhaps you could speak for yourself, please - I certainly don't want to be pandered to. I expect to be treated as a rational, intelligent, human being.

Greatnan Sun 11-Aug-13 13:35:50

Or not, in this case!

Elegran Sun 11-Aug-13 13:34:04

Ah! That explains it. I thought at first that it was Deserving who was trying to be clever and amusing, but it was a journalist.

Greatnan Sun 11-Aug-13 13:23:49

Jane Austen writes sentences that I can understand at first reading.

deserving Sun 11-Aug-13 13:04:12

Stick to?

Nonu Sun 11-Aug-13 12:57:33

If you say so

Greatnan Sun 11-Aug-13 12:49:08

I think I will stick to Jane Austen.

deserving Sun 11-Aug-13 12:47:04

Not necessarily by the same gender though.Thoughts that occur can sometimes be likened to first impressions. Often those first impressions we are warned about having , are correct.Things that occur, give the impression of not being structured,and if acted upon can be ill-considered, or more correctly not thought out at all.And as irrelevant as Fuchs seems to have been.

Greatnan Sun 11-Aug-13 12:42:54

This particular headline was clearly not intended to be amusing and I, for one, certainly expect correct grammar from journalists. 'Pandering to elderly ladies'......hm, a tad patronising, I think?

Nonu Sun 11-Aug-13 12:35:25

Sometimes though DES. we like being pandered to , has that thought occurred to you .

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