feeling proud to be British

Margaret, thanks for for explaining the Geog of the UK, I failed O'level Geog to my shame

I meant - but it seems I didn't explain clearly enough for you - many people say 'I holiday in Wales'. I do not say ' I holiday in England' I always name the county. So I did not say ' I do not holiday in England' I said ' I do not say I holiday in England'

This is meant to clear up the misunderstanding, I doubt it has

What would you, say, if you had a holiday somewhere in Scotland?

Scottish people say they are going to England – if they do. Or "across the border".

I don't think I'll make a point of saying I'm going to visit my daughter in Derbyshire, England though. It sounds too American, like Paris, France.

I knew what you meant, Anniebach, and I agree that there is a tendency for the English to say 'Oh, I love Wales, we go there on holiday every year...' whereas no Welsh person would say the same about England. They may do about Scotland, of course, or Ireland...

I'm not sure what your point is tho' Anniebach. When I had a holiday in Anglesey, I said I was going to Anglesey. Wales was understood, just as England is when you mention Lincolnshire or Devon, etc, or Scotland if you mention Wester Ross or Angus, etc.

(Crossed posts with Tegan and thatbags)

Ah, I think I get it now.

Knew it wouldn't clear things up with some.

Many - not all - people say ' I holiday in Wales' I have never heard anyone in Wales say to me ' I holiday in England'

Ana, you got it lol,

Tegan, I have enjoyed a couple of walking holidays in Dumfries and Galloway

Ever wished you had just shut up lol

I have never said "I holiday". I only use holiday as a noun. Just saying.

My grandsons have just been to Newcastle.....No. Not THAT one.

Northern Ireland!

Don't forget about the Stafforshire Newcastle as well, merlot

The reason Americans say Paris , France is because there are innumerable Cities in Northern America called Paris

So, people snigger at them , but they have it right !!

Yes, I know, nonu. They have it right for Americans, but when European in Europe says Paris, they mean the original one, in Fance.

As might be expected.

Thanks for explaining that, Nonu. Now I think I will have a bowl of Rice Krispies.

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In fact 2 s .
I feel so on top of the world !!

This one will run and run.

Why am I feeling so wicked?

Sorry, nonu, that was to greatnan. Crossed posts, and probably purposes too.

Tegan I did use to say I was going to visit my moter in Perth Scotland, as it could be confused with Perth on Australia

Moter? I used to visit my MOTHER.

Paris Texas, Paris Illinois, Paris Kentucky, while not exactly innumerable, may justify saying Paris, France, but Vatican City, Italy? As opposed to what?

I think when we say where we're going to go to we use the place name that makes it most clear to the person we're talking to. And [I may be wrong in this] but, if I say to someone I'm going to Scotland for a holiday [or if they say it to me] the conversation then goes on to 'where in Scotland'. I spoke to someone at work today and said I'd been to Berwick and she asked where Berwick was so I had to explain it was a Border town [even though she'd recently been to Edinburgh on the train]. If I was going to Anglesey I'd say 'Anglesey' not 'Wales' because I think most people know it quite well. If I was talking to my ex in laws, who live on the Welsh Border and I was going to a place in Wales I would name the place because they'd know where it was, but if I was talking to my neighbour I would start off by saying I was going to Wales, and then elaborate. Am I making any sense? [I know what I mean; I think ].