Cornwall

Congratulations DebnCreme. With a name like that you should know which is the best clotted cream!

Getting back to Cornwall (I wish), there is a double page spread in an unmentionable newspaper today of homes sold in Britain in one day for £1 million and over.

One of them is in St Mawes, I think it is one that was proposed a few years ago when DH and I visited there. A perfectly nice bungalow was being demolished and this very expensive house was going to be built on the prime spot. It has just sold for £2.9million. A snip!

Goodness me. A thread wot I started has gone on for four pages. I feel so proud

www.langagefarm.com/clotted-cream delicious!. I have no connection to the company

I love Cornwall, despite the fact that we lived in neighbouring Devon for years and DH is a Devon boy. I wanted to visit an old pub that my dad used to visit probably nearly 100 years ago when he first joined the RN, and found it to be a trendy place, full of weekenders from London and with prices to match.

Some Cornish villages are practically deserted in the winter and in the week, as many of the cottages have been bought as holiday homes and have subsequently priced out young locals.

Reviving old languages is, I think, a good thing, but can go too far. How long before every Cornish school child has compulsory lessons in Cornish at great expense to the taxpayer? As a voluntary exercise, self-funded, I think it is a good idea - but of course so much of modern Cornish will be someone's idea of what it should be.

The best clotted cream is from Devon - am I allowed to name it? I will put it on another post in case it gets deleted.

There was a movement not so long ago for an independent Monmouthshire.
Let's face it, Great Britain is just full of eccentrics, the trouble starts when they begin to take over.

When I lived there it was the second generation people that described visitors as emmets and I do wonder how many people in Cornwall these days can trace their ancestry back for hundreds of years? Having said that, I love the place with a passion and am desperate to go back there and visit my old haunts [ie The Cobweb and The Wellington ]. Nowhere gives me a sense of the past the way that Cornwall does, with it's little coves and waves crashing against the cliffs. I can close my eyes and be there now.

much as I hat to give you a link to a Daily MAil article I can't find the original article I read or link to the one in the Times because of the paywall.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2617938/Revealed-How-parts-Britain-poorer-POLAND-families-Wales-Cornwall-Europes-worst-off.html

For the benefit of those who abhor links -

"Despite being a country with some of the highest incomes in the EU, in many parts of Britain, people are earning way below the European average, according to new statistics. In areas like Cornwall, Lincolnshire and Durham wages are lower than in much of Poland and Lithuania
Tarn Lamb is Chief Executive at Cornwall Neighbourhood Change, a charity who seek to transform disadvantaged areas in Cornwall.
"Cornwall’s GDA is less than 75% of the national average and has been for the last two decades. I see a lot of poverty in Cornwall. The idea people have is clotted cream and fish and chips and ice cream at the beach., But the job opportunities are not good enough for the youjng people here. The best and most able leave Cornwall and the other young people struggle to get a foothold in the Labour market."

One of only two areas of the UK still getting European funding Cornwall is in dire straits, no increase in house prices here, unless its a house that will be bought by incomers, average wages is £14.300 no jobs for the young. As far as I am concerned anything that helps the dire straits has to be good, it even extends to the schools, our children receive almost half the funding received by children in Hackney, £8595 against £4396. How is that justified?

Opinions are welcome, but oh, these endless links...

opendemocracy.net/node/82215

Cape Cornwall is where my niece was married in 2012.

Well I've left the grockles in my Devonshire home town and am currently an emmet in St. Ives and very nice it is too. I'm here with a friend for a few days rest after a very busy few weeks and have just had a lovely day wandering through the town. I've had an afternoon tea and a fish and chip dinner, with a glass of wine in a pub separating the two events. I'm now on my bed in my pj's with a cup of tea having admired the waning daylight over the bay.

It's almost like a 'My gang is bigger/smarter/got a better language than yours' competition!

We used to have a business in the Blackpool area years ago and the tourists were called 'grockles' there too.

Deeda we moved to Cornwall in 1974 [ beat ya by a year.]Because it's such ages ago I couldn't remember which way round it was [the grockle/emmet thing.]Emmets are ants .Grockle was the word in use then for tourists in Devon [because I worked 'over the border' in Plymouth and that's where I first heard it.] It's all coming back to me now , through a dim and distant mist of time.
durhamjen I always record Countryfile to watch when I have the time, so didn't know it was set in Yorkshire in the last episode.I like Ian McMillan so look forward to watching that.I may even watch it baht'at . I have jumped up and down a few times on the Cow and Calf as a child, and even tried to inscribe my name there [huge boulders, people, not real animals.]
Used to jiggle the night away at the disco nearby as a teenager [Cow and Calf Hotel.But even though I grew up in Yorkshire[with Yorkshire family for generations] I would not wish for anymore counties to think they are so special that they must be separate in some way.Or even for North or South 'assemblies'.In the immortal word of Brian Ferry 'let's Stick Together'.

When we first moved to Cornwall in 1975 Emmet was a very long standing name for tourists and upcountry people generally. We only seemed to hear about the word grockle being used in Devon some years later. ( Of course we may just have been typically Cornish and insular and not noticed)

Deedaa that's brilliant. My OH has always told me it was the other way round. It's not something you would get wrong given the name, so .....that means ..... He wuz wrong

And it doesn't have lots of languages.

A county is an entity. Yorkshire is a separate county from its neighbours and it is an entity. There. Sorted as a separate entity.

Separatism is silly.

I said Countryfile is in Yorkshire as I was watching it at the time I was writing.
Today Countryfile was mainly in Yorkshire. It's 75 years since The Dalesman magazine first appeared, so Countryfile was following the trail of 75 Yorkshire icons, as voted for by Dalesman readers.
Of course, you could have just switched on BBC1, but never mind. You missed a treat, Ian McMillan sitting in front of the Cow and Calf, reciting the great Yorkshire poem, On Ilkley Moor, in thick fog.

South and West is best, goldengirl. My family hail from Ventnor and Bonchurch. DD1 was born at St. Mary's and DS in a cottage just outside Freshwater.

Yes, please explain!

Do you mean Yorkshire dialect ? Or the different languages that I heard on the streets of Bradford last year, in which case , yes, there certainly are a lot, but mainly from Pakistan and Poland.Or do you mean something else entirely?
Yorkshire may be the largest county, but does that mean it should be a separate entity [like Cornwall, you mean?]
Countryfile on tv is set in all the different counties isn't it? Adam's farm is in the Cotswolds.

I hope Eric Pickles knows where Cornwall is,anno. He was in Somerset when the floods were on. As he's the minister for localism, couldn't someone give him a map?

Countryfile is in Yorkshire. Yorkshire should definitely be a separate entity. It's got lots of languages of its own, not just one.

Yes, they are. I'm from the Isle of Wight too! West Wight which is of course different from East Wight

Grockles are Isle of Wight as well.

Grockles are Devonshire and Emmets are Cornwall. We used to have great fun as my mother's surname was Emmett - Emmett by name and Emmet by nature

The Grand Bard is real, rosesarered . If you do Google images you can see her in her blue robes. There are other bards as well, I think they also have them in Wales. People's hobbies are fine and good luck to them but it seems a bit odd to me.