Any views on faith healing?

On principle I don't believe in paranormal faith healing. However I had a paranormal 'faith healing' experience involving a 'healer' which I can't explain .

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My DM tried faith healers with my DF, when he was in hospital.
However she had asked his consultant whether he minded, and he said, No, not at all, he had known it to work.
In my father’s case it didn’t.

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Went to church. Such a warm welcome. Felt goo to be there.

The faith and strength is within yourself along with self-will.

My mother got some faith healers in for my father when he was very ill. (It didn't work)
However she did first ask his doctor whether he'd mind, and he said not at all, he had seen cases where it had worked.

I believe it can be mind over matter which has been proven to help illness. I don't know anyone who has been miraculously healed. But I have had things happen in my life which seem more than coincidence. The evil in the world is caused by human beings. But what about earthquakes tsunamis etc. Not to mention allowing evil like the holocaust. I don't know. I do know that I get a nice peaceful feeling the rare time I am in a church service, possibly a throwback to when I was a Christian. I am going to try to get to church this weekend. Nothing else gives me that feeling.

Charlatans at work.
IMO, you either spontaneously recover (the body is a wonderful machine) or the medication kicks in.
Prayer has no effect on the outcome.
All the prayers, chanting and laying on of hands will not speed recovery or lessen the chance of whatever outcome is diagnosed.
The fact that recovery cannot be duplicated to see whether faith played a part or whether you would have recovered sans faith, means that we will never, in truth, know the extent that the power of positive thinking has on the body.
IPlayer has an investigative programme which I found interesting. EXORCISM, the battle for young minds.

Sounds like a teratoma.

Prayer and faith tends to have a positive effect on the body. This post proves it gospelreview.wordpress.com/2019/01/25/lady-with-8-years-old-swollen-stomach-delivers-a-human-head-with-hair-after-angel-obinim-oil-direction/

Are herbal remedies and faith healing effective against spreading cellulitis, bacterial meningitis or pneumonia? No, I thought not.
As Tim Minchin put it - if alternative medicine worked, it would be mainstream.

Conventional medicine does include a lot more than antibiotics.

ps I'm not sure if the above has been mentioned yet?

Another point about conventional medicine - there's been a lot in the media about antibiotics being oversubscribed, becoming ineffective. Also new unknown bugs for which there's no cure yet.
So other methods like faith healing, herbalism, homeopathy etc may be used more instead.

Haha, Durhamjen, I'm certainly rather jaundiced about conventional medicine. I hear so many horror stories.

Thanks, Disgruntled.
We both believed in complementary therapies. He tried all sorts. One GP even taught him self-hypnosis.
The one thing that helped him a bit was capsaicin, from the chilli pepper.
Acupuncture put him to sleep, but the pain came back when he woke up.
I know what to use when I have pain! I bet you do, too.

Oh, that's good to hear, Durhamjen that he was pain free for the last three weeks, but awful that he'd had to endure all that pain for 15 years. I've treated people who've been in pain for years (in spite of heavy drugs). It's interesting isn't it.

Keffie wrote
'After all if you have a faith you also believe God (you understand) has given the medical profession the skills to help the healing process as well. In our case it is by diet and an other holistic treatments.'
That's the way we look at it. Glad to hear that your husband is feeling better, TG.

I think that was the whole point of it, hapgran.

Disgruntled, my husband had been in pain for 15 years, since he fell off a ladder and fractured his spine.
The last three weeks of his life, when he was dying from a brain tumour, and he could have had permanent morphine from a driver, he had no pain whatsoever. I put it down to the treatment from the hospice at home nurses.

No, Hapgran The point of the two stories is that both were violent actions based on confusion and ignorance. Someone heard "homo sapiens" (human being or "one of mankind")and immediately reacted as though it was homosexual (having sex with someone of the same sex, mostly used for men), and someone else learnt that a paediatrician (doctor for children) was living in a certain house and reacted as though he was a paedophile (sexual abuser of children).

Throwing out a homosexual family member is bad, but throwing out all the homo sapiens would leave you totally alone. And attacking a paediatrician would be a bad thing for sick children.

I practise and teach Reiki and have seen some amazing results. It's not a placebo because it works on animals. You don't have to believe in it for it work. I've just come from the local hospice where I see pain levels reduce (or even disappear) time and time again. I think someone who understand quantum mechanics might be able to explain it.

Do you mean homosexual - I think homo sapiens is a generic term for the human race..?