My pleasure Happy.. Next year do what they want. They're the parents after all.. But please don't feel bad or take heed of some of the sanctimonious stuff on this thread. You're a loving grandparent.. You didn't want to differentiate between your grandchildren.. You bought them EIGHT presents each.. From what I can tell (even given the 'telling off') they were modest presents.. At the end of the day we are granparents and we love our grandchildren. I think your son was wrong, in no uncertain terms, of accusing you of ruining christmas.. Protect yourself next year.. Give the parents money instead.. My feeling is, and it's only a feeling, not letting these children attend school etc etc will, in the long term, do much more harm than a loving (overindulgent??) grandmother... Pour youseld a glass (or cuppa) and breathe easy xx