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GNHQ please make it clear that these forums are public!
(418 Posts)I am forever warning people that these forums are public and a thread may end up on Facebook.
I really think that GNHQ should put a note on the Forum home page to that effect in big, bold, text - red, underlined, anything to draw attention to that fact. Put it in the welcome email too. Especially as some posters are not only new to GN, but new to forums.
I can't bear to think that an already stressful situation is made worse for someone because their posts are used as a "trailer" on the Facebook page.
(Writing this because I noticed that someone has been caught out by this, how upsetting).
How do I remove my details and go black not that there's much there to worry about ?
Hang on Letitia I can't see any links at the top of my page please tell me more ?
Timely reminder, thank you! I had forgotten this and just looked on fb to see. Several recent threads are on there with names (hopefully pseudonyms.) there are some things I would not like sharing publicly so I shall take more care in future!
I posted a personal thread (now removed ) a few weeks back at the time I was looking for some support and advice I didn't really think about it going outside Gransnet but someone pointed out the issue and as a lot of the people I know are on face book I asked GN to remove my post which they did. It's misleading that this is a supportive chat forum as if these posts are going to be printed in the papers discussed On TV and shared on face book it defeats the aim?
I use Facebook and I make sure my security is set at the highest level, so only accessible to friends whom I know personally.
When I realised my GN profile info may be accessed by others (if they really, really want to probe) I have taken my personal info off GN and made it inaccessible by others. So my name appears in black not blue.
Having read this thread, I shall ask GN to change my GN name as anyone who knows me well (family) could put 2 and 2 together.
But otherwise I take the same view as Leticia. Having said that, it is wise to be cautious about what we post.
I would hate for GN to become a watered down version of its current robust and feisty self.
Leticia the need for warnings is because some people are "social media naive" and unaware. Many of the comments on this thread indicate that.
I started this thread because a new poster asked for her post to be withdrawn because she had posted "looking for anonymous advice" about her granddaughter, giving away lots of personal info, it had landed up on FB and the poster had been recognised. She was clearly very upset in her final post. So, for people like her, warnings are necessary. And it is a simple solution.
For me, teaching/training people how to use sites like this one, is part of the responsibility of having a site like GN with forums on Relationships, AIBU etc. that invite unburdening and disclosure.
I am really surprised that anyone didn't know this- especially when the links to FaceBook, Twitter, Google, Pinterest etc are at the top of every page! The fact that they are ought to be warning enough.
If you Google something it will most likely come up with a Gransnet page. I remember a thread on Mumsnet where a lot of members found it because it came up when they were Googling a question.
Journalists will use it a lot - a sure sign that it isn't private.
I am very surprised to find people with a profile - even more surprised that they have public photographs- I make sure that I am completely anonymous and wouldn't give any personal information that could identify me.
I won a GN competition but I ignored it- I didn't want to give my address.
I can't see a need for warnings- I have my privacy settings very high on FB - there are no privacy settings on GN and that should make you very cautious.
Why not have a seperate fb page for gransnetters who want to use it, with a link to this gransnet forum IF they want to join then people can be free to be a one site or two site gransnetter It's plain LAZY to link them both
I don't feel any reassurance that we can change names that ll be very confusing, as you build up trust in someone whose username you recognise even though you don't know them
I don't think HQ is going to take a scape of notice of us and our concerns unless we become radical old gals and guys
Hullo Lara, Why can't we change user names any time we want, as they do on Mumsnet?
That would go a way to keeping anonymity, as using different names would conceal the fact that posts A, B & C were all from the same person.
Can't see much point in posting from now on. Tough luck on those who need support or help. Just banal comments - have a nice day
biker I won a competition on GN recently, winning a lot of lovely books and I did not have that trouble.
Sorry for going slightly off piste.
Just in case anyone missed my earlier post, here's a link and should answer some questions and misunderstandings.
bikergran, we never pass on your email addresses etc to third parties (see my earlier post re comps) so please don't worry about that.
Yes, Facebook is one of the ways we let potential new gransnetters know about us, so it is in a way advertising the site. If Gransnet is to continue, we need to grow.
We understand your concerns about anonymity and as we said we'd be happy to change your usernames if that would help.
For those who aren't familiar with Facebook, people need to follow or like a page like Gransnet for it to be likely to show up on their 'feed' and those people who like our Facebook page are very likely to be potential gransnetters. But the overriding issue is that this is the internet and while it's unlikely for anyone to stumble across something, there is always a chance they might so it's a good idea to bear this in mind before posting.
GNHQ can we have some more comments from you please. You can see we're not happy with what you are doing. Please think about it. What's the point of attracting more people from FB if you lose the ones you've got on GN?
I entered a GN competition weeks ago..and have been unindated with spam emails ..more or less implying I have a loan and various other things waiting!!
Could this have come from me entering my details in the Competition I don't know . Never had as much spam before.
Just to be on the safe side I checked my credit rating to make sure no one had been messing...all was well.!
When we signed up we signed away our rights( see my previous post) we no longer 'own' our posts and GN can do anything they like with them.
Their business is generating an audience , that number is what they 'sell' to their advertisers. Those advertisers are what generates the income.
It's a business at the end of the day. I can't see us being able to change that .
I have thought about this and I knew this was an open forum that anybody could access but not respond unless a member. I was aware the papers from The Guardian to the Daily Mail print articles on what we say from time to time.
However I can't say I am happy to know about the Facebook connection as it has been my personal choice not to be involved in Facebook. If 'I' wanted to be on Facebook 'I' would join Facebook. I would not expect a 3rd party' to do it for me.
That is what I would call at any other time 'A bloody cheek'.
Is this a normal thing for a site/forum to do? I have no idea but would be interested to understand if this is common place or an abnormal occurrence . Am I correct in thinking it is akin to say the NHS/DVLA selling your personal information , a cash generator? Or is it just a 'thing' sites/forum do.?
Silence is golden at GNHQ
Reading this I'm just horrified that posts can end up on Facebook. Like *n&g I enjoy FB. As well as family goings on it's perfect for keeping up with old friends scattered around this country, and beyond, who I care about but don't see regularly these days. But I'm careful about my privacy settings, am cautious about what I post and don't have "friends" who are not personally known to me. I've chosen not to link to gransnet on FB as I feared that could compromise confidentiality on both sites. Perhaps naively, I didn't reckon on gransnet threads or posts ending up on fb, through the back door as it were, and it concerns me. I'm a fairly open person in real life and I have a good group of friends but sometimes there are family issues I choose not to discuss with friends who know the folk involved - as my mother used to say "least said, soonest mended". For me gransnet is a way of testing out thoughts about a situation, giving and receiving comments support and advice and learning from the experiences of others but with a measure of anonymity as a protective factor. I would be sad to lose that but am certainly not comfortable with the issues this this thread has brought to light.
It may not appear on FB but the link there can bring people (journalists maybe) straight to the thread on here.
Probably we'll see a DM article soon about the 'outraged grannies' who have just realised what we signed up to.
I will be a troublesome old biddy tgen.
I do not want anything
I post to appear on FB.
It doesnt have to be a thread I start of course but just a comment I make on that thread.
I definitely do not want anything of mine to end up on Facebook, thank you.
Once you've posted it, GN has the right to do what they wish with it.
Including this post!!
Perhaps everyone on this thread will be banned.
Troublesome old biddies and old blokes causing trouble. How dare they.
I doubt it Oldwoman as this is social media.
devongirl you can report your own Original Post where you started the thread and ask GN to delete the whole thread if you feel unhappy about it.
Surely then, if anyone went on FB and saw the Post on there, then clicked the link which takes you from FB to GN, the thread will say 'deleted'?
One would hope so, anyway, but I suppose people can still comment on FB about the OP as it would still be there.
instead of the jargon-laden bit about copyright and intellectual property that someone posted yesterday, (hidden somewhere on the site?
That was me Gk
I think, translated, it means that GN own what you post and can use it as they see fit anywhere and everywhere.
Is that the correct interpretation in plain English GN?
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