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GNHQ please make it clear that these forums are public!

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Grannyknot Tue 15-Aug-17 16:25:44

I am forever warning people that these forums are public and a thread may end up on Facebook.

I really think that GNHQ should put a note on the Forum home page to that effect in big, bold, text - red, underlined, anything to draw attention to that fact. Put it in the welcome email too. Especially as some posters are not only new to GN, but new to forums.

I can't bear to think that an already stressful situation is made worse for someone because their posts are used as a "trailer" on the Facebook page.

(Writing this because I noticed that someone has been caught out by this, how upsetting).

Tizliz Tue 15-Aug-17 22:17:54

But this is the internet. Even if this was a closed forum there is nothing to stop people registering then copying posts to elsewhere - Facebook, Daily Mail etc. Nothing is private on the internet.

Swanny Tue 15-Aug-17 22:28:04

Yes, I understand that anyone can register as a member then behave irresponsibly and copy posts elsewhere, BUT it is one extra step to them getting their own jollies for whatever reason and (hopefully) discourages the inconsiderate posters from getting a 'quick fix' of their own addiction.

maryeliza54 Tue 15-Aug-17 22:32:02

Yes but this is GNHQ doing it and people didn't realise. It's true that on FB/Twitter there's just the quote without the posters name but the link is there, click on it and you have the full GN thread, no searching, served up for anyone who wants to read it.i actually think that the Twitter link is worse because people, like journalists, just become a GN 'follower' and then every time GN tweets, all the 18k+ followers automatically have the tweets immediately appearing on their twitter feed, they don't have to do anything except click on the link if they wish to

maryeliza54 Tue 15-Aug-17 22:32:52

My reply was to Tiz

JaneD3 Tue 15-Aug-17 23:09:50

I am new to GN and have always studiously avoided Twitface etc. I may continue to read the messages but this may be my last post. (Cue trumpet ...grin)

Bobbysgirl19 Tue 15-Aug-17 23:25:19

Well if the link to the post is there, there's no protection is there! Hate the concept of Facebook and am quite appalled that posters info put on this site are then made that public by linking into Facebook.

Why couldn't gransnet keep a separate Facebook forum instead of linking into this one, I think they should strongly consider this in view of the anti Facebook feelings held by so many.

Quite frankly I feel it's a betrayal of trust!

Bobbysgirl19 Tue 15-Aug-17 23:27:58

PS. That applies to Twitter too.

Grannyknot Wed 16-Aug-17 08:21:01

What i am asking for is that this practice (links to threads may be posted on FB/Twitter) is clearly stated on the Forums page, and also flagged up to new members...

maryeliza54 Wed 16-Aug-17 08:24:21

That's a very fair request Granny

Tizliz Wed 16-Aug-17 08:57:32

maryeliza54 I agree with you, I was trying to point out how careful everybody needs to be.

Anniebach Wed 16-Aug-17 09:08:05

Some have reached out here in despair only for it to be on Facebook . Is there anything more cruel than betrayal of trust

Jalima1108 Wed 16-Aug-17 09:08:47

I didn't realise about the Twitter link although I knew about the FB one.
I avoid Twitter (for twits by twits, sorry to any twitterers on here) and, of course, our accounts are linked to our email addresses so it all becomes rather alarming.
Enter a competition and you have to give your name and address too.

And I have seen one of my quotes used in the national press in an article by GN - I just thought that was my 30 seconds of fame although the quote was anonymous.
hmm

merlotgran Wed 16-Aug-17 09:32:27

Remember the so called writer/blogger who came on Gransnet and wrote a banal spoof on the Royal Family? She was highly miffed when none of us found it the least bit funny and details of the thread appeared in the DM. hmm

I've been very wary since then.

maryeliza54 Wed 16-Aug-17 09:35:08

Absolutely agree Tiz

Moocow Wed 16-Aug-17 09:37:30

Thank you for starting this thread grannyknot! I didn't know how it worked with facebook nor twitter. Knowing it is a public forum made me feel safe-ish because it is titled "gransnet" which I know is stupid in thinking it's a bunch of oldies who wouldn't hurt a fly but maybe the " gransnet" needs to be something wider to remind us all that it can be just as dangerous posting here as on any other public forum. Scary

Stansgran Wed 16-Aug-17 09:59:26

I was told that Facebook and twitter are old hat.

annsixty Wed 16-Aug-17 10:47:23

Yet another thread started today where posters are advising the OP to ask for the thread to be removed. She was asking for some sympathy and understanding.
I am beyond sad.

ninathenana Wed 16-Aug-17 11:01:54

I've never seen a Mumsnet thread on FB has anyone else ?
If it dosen't happen to them then why us ?
I thought you had to follow the GN page which I do, for it to come up on your news feed. (have I got that wrong ?) Lets face it DD and her generation are not likely to follow GN via FB unless they are digging.

maryeliza54 Wed 16-Aug-17 11:03:19

it is sad that people's problems may turn into 'click bait' isn't it? But being careful about what you post is probably always a good idea regardless of twitter or FBI. Something very sad happened to me this morning which I'm sure many of you have been through but I couldn't think of a way to post about it that made me feel safe so I've just had a bit of a cry on my own

Tallulah57 Wed 16-Aug-17 11:06:42

I am absolutely appalled, please show me GNHQ where I gave you permission to replicate any of my posts and what other information have you passed on?

Funnily enough I have been getting loads and loads of email junk and it has coincided with when I joined this forum. I really thought this was a genuine, honest and much needed resource where people could ask for advice and seek the experience of others in similar situations. I for one will not be posting on here again unless there are some reassurances about exactly what will be kept confidential. Please don't come back with this is a public forum, that does not give you permission to reproduce posts or private information.

Oriel Wed 16-Aug-17 11:12:32

I hadn't realised that Gransnet put our posts on their facebook page. I checked last night and found one that I had started on their facebook page. I'm shocked and saddened that this has happened.

I never post on facebook, although I do have an account, as I dislike it so for Gransnet to post without my knowledge is not on!

LaraGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 16-Aug-17 11:13:19

We're so sorry if anyone has been alarmed about this. There seem to be all sorts of possible misunderstandings so let us try and explain a few bits:

1) We would never give away your name or email address to anyone without your permission (in circumstances where they may need to get in touch with you about a competition delivery for instance). But we only keep the contact details from competitions for a short period of time (which is why if you're a lucky multiple winner you often have to give us your address again).

2) Social media accounts like Twitter and Facebook exist on their own platforms and by being a member of Gransnet, you aren't automatically signed up to either of these. We do share links to carefully selected threads that we think will resonate.
Unless your usernames on Gransnet and on Twitter are the same, no one would be able to make a link.

2) Yes, we would of course advise you to be cautious with certain things you reveal on the internet - and on an open forum such as this. Anyone is able to read anything, whether or not they come to the site via Facebook, a news site or some other means.

3) If anyone is worried that your current username gives away your identity, in this circumstance we are very happy to look at changing it for you to something else. Please email us at contactus and we can do that for you.

MissAdventure Wed 16-Aug-17 11:18:37

For myself, its nothing to do with my username. Neither is it because I feel the need to tell all and sundry about my life. Its just the fact that things I have said in the course of answering a thread, putting forth my own experience, and things said in passing could all be enough for somebody who knows (or knows of me and my little family) to identify me.

MissAdventure Wed 16-Aug-17 11:22:41

I suppose I've done it again with "my little family" add together all those little innocuous words, and it can build up a pretty comprehensive picture, over time.

Crafting Wed 16-Aug-17 11:26:05

I too feel it is so sad that people can no longer ask for help and support on GN for fear of it being misused. So many people have had support and let's face it although some of the requests are asked in a funny way i.e. things about knickers or bra fittings many requests are for help from people with serious anxieties. If people post about a certain scenario, even if it doesn't have the persons real name attached to it, it is much more likely that that person would be able to be identified by users on FB or twitter. None of my children or friends are on GN but most are on FB and twitter and I'm sure lots of people would be able to recognise me by some of the things I have written. It seems to me there is no longer a point in being on GN.sad