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GNHQ please make it clear that these forums are public!

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Grannyknot Tue 15-Aug-17 16:25:44

I am forever warning people that these forums are public and a thread may end up on Facebook.

I really think that GNHQ should put a note on the Forum home page to that effect in big, bold, text - red, underlined, anything to draw attention to that fact. Put it in the welcome email too. Especially as some posters are not only new to GN, but new to forums.

I can't bear to think that an already stressful situation is made worse for someone because their posts are used as a "trailer" on the Facebook page.

(Writing this because I noticed that someone has been caught out by this, how upsetting).

Luckygirl Thu 17-Aug-17 10:57:41

I joined FB recently purely for the purpose of someone sending me a music track that they were unable to send in any other way. I have never used it otherwise and always felt it was just causing a lot of trouble to people.

bikergran Thu 17-Aug-17 11:12:34

GrannyKnot I'm sure that like me and everyone else we are grateful that you brought the subject up, I along with others have been a little naive I suppose thinking were were converted.

Although yes, I have read and understood that our post can/could be see on other social media but didn't really realize implications that may arise.

I think the "tick" box would be a start..but then our posts could possibly still be googled etc etc .

I love lurking/posting on GN it would be like loosing a virtual friend, so much good information and advice and most of all "support" When people have been at such rock bottom and I mean rock bottom! that they (me included) have been able to access a forum 24/7 and for support to be offered.

Lets hope GN can be revived a little and find a way round things.
PM is fine but it is only as we say 1-1 .

I would hate to see GN dissapear.

bikergran Thu 17-Aug-17 11:13:25

"coverted" not converted! if thats the right word.

NanaandGrampy Thu 17-Aug-17 11:48:39

I love FB - Ill get that out there to start with !!

BUT I have only my close family as friends and my privacy is set as high as it can go so I'm not discoverable by phone number or email and my posts are not open to search engines.

I have just popped onto the Gransnet FB page and it would appear its open to all, no need for registration , unlike the actual Gransnet Forum where by you have to register.

I went in search of Gransnet Privacy Policy ( which of course I like many of you never read when we signed up ).

I also looked at The Terms of Use - and to use my Grandma's favourite term - we're buggered !

This is the passage that has scuppered any rights we thought we had ( I think)

By submitting user content to us, simultaneously with such posting you automatically grant to us a worldwide, fully-paid, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, fully sublicensable, and transferable right and license to use, record, sell, lease, reproduce, distribute, create derivative works based upon (including, without limitation, translations), publicly display, publicly perform, transmit, publish and otherwise exploit the user content (in whole or in part) as Gransnet, in its sole discretion, deems appropriate.

I too shall be a far more cautious poster going forward !!

Maybe a strike is in orderwink

seacliff Thu 17-Aug-17 13:25:59

When you want help with a problem, you never know who on gransnet might respond and be able to help, often having experienced something similar them selves. It is so good to be able to get this type of help, for various reasons we often can't ask our own real life friends and family. Now this lifeline is gone for me.

I was trying to think of an alternative. I know many don't like Facebook, but it's possible to have a secret group. The trouble is, we'd all have to know each others real names, it's not possible to have user names. So we'd all have to trust each other, I suppose it wouldn't be viable.

devongirl Thu 17-Aug-17 13:51:08

I have a current thread which I really don't want made public; is there any way to get GN to delete it?

FarNorth Thu 17-Aug-17 14:03:31

Use "contact us" as already advised by Lara.

I don't know where you find it though, I did have a quick look.

FarNorth Thu 17-Aug-17 14:05:07

I now realise my DDs have prob read everything I have ever wrote

Maybe not, if they don't know your username and/or haven't happened to see the GN page on facebook.

FarNorth Thu 17-Aug-17 14:08:31

"contact us" seems to be at the bottom of each page, on the desktop site.
Can't see it anywhere on the mobile site confused

BlueBelle Thu 17-Aug-17 14:21:14

Best to go into 'report it' and ask them to remove it that's what I did the other day when I posted something I later decided I didn't want posted they removed it within an hour

I think it's awful that we can't edit or remove our own stuff I can on other forums I go on

merlotgran Thu 17-Aug-17 14:33:07

It's not our stuff though is it, BlueBelle. Once we've clicked 'post' its theirs to do what they like with.

No wonder there's no edit button hmm

Crafting Thu 17-Aug-17 14:33:25

GNHQ can you please stop putting our threads on FB and Twitter. We don't like it. Please read this thread and reply

devongirl Thu 17-Aug-17 14:35:02

Good luck with that, crafting! Maybe we should synchronise a simultaneous mass emailing of GN?!

Ana Thu 17-Aug-17 14:38:57

They're not going to stop. It's part of their operation. Makes the site revamp pale in significance now, doesn't it?

henetha Thu 17-Aug-17 15:17:41

Can this happen even if we are not on Facebook? I am not.
I definitely do not want anything of mine to end up on Facebook, thank you.

Ana Thu 17-Aug-17 15:25:55

It doesn't matter whether you're on FB or not.

Oldwoman70 Thu 17-Aug-17 15:31:53

I wonder whether GNHQ could create a separate forum where we could post those things we don't want put on social media?

Jalima1108 Thu 17-Aug-17 18:19:32

instead of the jargon-laden bit about copyright and intellectual property that someone posted yesterday, (hidden somewhere on the site?
That was me Gk

I think, translated, it means that GN own what you post and can use it as they see fit anywhere and everywhere.

Is that the correct interpretation in plain English GN?

Jalima1108 Thu 17-Aug-17 18:28:23

devongirl you can report your own Original Post where you started the thread and ask GN to delete the whole thread if you feel unhappy about it.

Surely then, if anyone went on FB and saw the Post on there, then clicked the link which takes you from FB to GN, the thread will say 'deleted'?
One would hope so, anyway, but I suppose people can still comment on FB about the OP as it would still be there.

Jalima1108 Thu 17-Aug-17 18:29:06

I doubt it Oldwoman as this is social media.

Jalima1108 Thu 17-Aug-17 18:31:34

I definitely do not want anything of mine to end up on Facebook, thank you.
Once you've posted it, GN has the right to do what they wish with it.

Including this post!!

Perhaps everyone on this thread will be banned.
Troublesome old biddies and old blokes causing trouble. How dare they.

annsixty Thu 17-Aug-17 18:45:19

I will be a troublesome old biddy tgen.
I do not want anything
I post to appear on FB.
It doesnt have to be a thread I start of course but just a comment I make on that thread.

FarNorth Thu 17-Aug-17 18:59:35

It may not appear on FB but the link there can bring people (journalists maybe) straight to the thread on here.

Probably we'll see a DM article soon about the 'outraged grannies' who have just realised what we signed up to.

grannyqueenie Thu 17-Aug-17 19:05:12

Reading this I'm just horrified that posts can end up on Facebook. Like *n&g I enjoy FB. As well as family goings on it's perfect for keeping up with old friends scattered around this country, and beyond, who I care about but don't see regularly these days. But I'm careful about my privacy settings, am cautious about what I post and don't have "friends" who are not personally known to me. I've chosen not to link to gransnet on FB as I feared that could compromise confidentiality on both sites. Perhaps naively, I didn't reckon on gransnet threads or posts ending up on fb, through the back door as it were, and it concerns me. I'm a fairly open person in real life and I have a good group of friends but sometimes there are family issues I choose not to discuss with friends who know the folk involved - as my mother used to say "least said, soonest mended". For me gransnet is a way of testing out thoughts about a situation, giving and receiving comments support and advice and learning from the experiences of others but with a measure of anonymity as a protective factor. I would be sad to lose that but am certainly not comfortable with the issues this this thread has brought to light.

Charleygirl Thu 17-Aug-17 19:10:54

Silence is golden at GNHQ