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MillieBear Fri 29-Dec-17 14:05:27

OldMeg band C fines are 150% of the weekly income of the offender. Reduced by up to 33% for a guilty plea.

Jane10 Fri 29-Dec-17 14:02:58

It's the drunk girls peeing in the streets and puking everywhere and the lads beating people up. I really don't remember such disinhibited behaviour being somehow seen as cool or admirable. No wonder some cultures look down on us for allowing this situation to arise.

BBbevan Fri 29-Dec-17 13:59:22

If they have to use an ambulance, A&E or a drunk tank because they are inebriated, they should be charged, No question

paddyann Fri 29-Dec-17 13:47:23

Been at many a lock in when I was young ...and even quite recently and the local bobby was known to pop in for a drink on his way home...lol.We weren't all angels .many folk got just as legless in the 60's and 70's as I recall .Not me I should add..not that I was an angel but my family all signed the pledge so drink wasn't an option in our house.Even in the 80's my aunt went to buy booze for party and asked if the Whisky and lager would keep until the Saturday night...it was Thursday ....lolTook a while for her to live it down.

Baggs Fri 29-Dec-17 13:41:33

Apparently my miner grandfather was unusual in what is now South Yorkshire in not drinking beer (he drank about a gallon of sweet, black, often cold tea a day instead) and in handing over his entire wage packet to his wife.

Coolgran65 Fri 29-Dec-17 13:34:39

Paddyann Here on the Emerald Isle we would have the same attitude to alcohol as in Scotland, possibly a Celtic trait.
My friend and I often discuss this and had similar happenings when growing up i.e. if father wasn't home within a half hour of finishing work then he wouldn't be home till after 'closing time'. Women got their housekeeping hopefully before it all got spent in the pub.

Going back some 60 odd years much work was more labour intensive, done outdoors in horrible weather, and I can see how the camaraderi (sp?) of the pub with workmates might appeal. Not saying it was the right way of doing things, it's just how it was, as I recall it.

As for not being available 24/7..... hmmmmm... not so sure about that. There was always the pub with the back door at 9 in the morning. The lock in 'after hours'. As long as there was no trouble a blind eye was turned most of the time.

vampirequeen Fri 29-Dec-17 13:29:45

Maybe they could introduce on the spot fines for anyone who has to stay there.

OldMeg Fri 29-Dec-17 13:27:12

Found this

Drunk and disorderly in a public place (Revised 2017)

Criminal Justice Act 1967, s.91
Effective from: 24 April 2017
Triable only summarily
Maximum: Level 3 fine
Offence range: Conditional discharge – Band C fine

What’s a Level 3 fine or a Band C fine?

Perhaps you can tell us VQ tchwink

paddyann Fri 29-Dec-17 13:22:06

I think its a good idea,it can be run with a couple of staff and free up the A and E staff to get on with their real job.Alcohol is and has been a huge problem here in Scotland for decades or more .....I remember hearing stories of women standing outside the shipyards to take the mens wages off them BEFORE they spent it in the pub.aND THEN THEY'D GO HOME AN DBEAT THEIR WIVES.sO ITS ONGOING

vampirequeen Fri 29-Dec-17 13:21:58

I have to admit I was a heavy drinker in my late teens and early twenties but I was always able to get back to where I was staying. DD1 and DD2 also drank at that age. DD2 works in a pub and says that drinks esp. shots are much cheaper these days so it's easier to get over drunk. She said that many often arrive drunk cos they've had wine before leaving the house. We never did that. We started sober. So even if they drink a similar amount to what we drank when they're out they already have alcohol in their system before they start.

Is it a change in behaviour because it's a new generation or are they simply reacting to the easier availability of alcohol? When I was young there were limited opening times and cheap alcohol did not exist. It had to be bought from a beer off not a supermarket. Now it's available 24/7. I don't think it's because we were more sensible. I think we would have drunk to the modern excess had it been available to us.

Perhaps the time has come to review the availability of alcohol in supermarkets.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Dec-17 13:19:12

I think it only fair that people should pay out of their own pockets.

OldMeg Fri 29-Dec-17 13:16:31

Good question Jane I heard that on my Alexa News Flash (?) this morning. It appear some major cities already have these.

Perhaps they should have to pay a fine as they might have to if brought to court for disorderly behaviour - preferably to be paid before they are released.

Jane10 Fri 29-Dec-17 13:07:12

Obviously I'm an old fogey but I'm so annoyed that people are getting themselves so drunk and out of control that we need to have drunk tanks staffed by NHS. I know this is a pragmatic decision to reduce admissions to A&E. It's the fact that people are so selfish and just plain stupid as to get themselves in such a state. Who should pay for their care? Themselves once they've sobered up? Alcohol suppliers? I don't think it should be those of us who don't and never did get ourselves into such a state.