Baby rape

I fear that the easy access via the internet to extreme porn and to others whose sexual interests are dangerous to those on the receiving end of the activity, contributes to 'normalising' activities that no ordinary person would accept as in any way normal.

I was talking to a Dutch friend at the weekend, she recalled a case there where the man said in his 'defence' he wanted to see if it would fit. Nothing more to say really.

There was a pop singer in a group a few years back guilty of this crime I can’t for the life of me remember his name
I don’t think it’s about porn or video games it has happened long before they were around
It’s a shame it couldn’t be left to the prisoners really and I m a peace loving person

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2525722/Lostprophets-paedophile-Ian-Watkins-described-child-sex-abuse-crimes-mega-lolz.html

Don’t read if it upsets you please

BlueBelle, in mentioning porn I'm not suggesting that this kind of abuse doesn't date back to the beginning of time, I know it does. However, the ease with which anyone can click a button and access horrific images/videos of child abuse must, imo, add to the likelihood of people who might have fantasised, beginning to act out their fantasies. That will be even more likely when they find like minded individuals on line and spend hours discussing their vile sexual fantasies.
It desensitises and normalises the frankly disgusting.

In my first year of teaching I had a little boy in my class whose father had sexually assaulted him as a baby. Understandably he was a very traumatised child.
So it regrettably is an awful thing that is not a new phenomena and totally abhorrent.

This is so very sad. It’s hard to imagine how anyone could even have those thoughts, let alone carry them out.

What use are these vile people to society? It's a shame we can't bring back capital punishment for some crimes.
I would have no qualms in pulling the lever.

I hate the crime but can't believe that state supported murder in the form of capital punishment would be any deterrent. Nor do I believe capital punishment of any kind has any place in a decent society.

All research suggests that capital punishment is not a deterrent. Look at USA..high murder rate but has capital punishment.

No return to capital punishment, it is not a deterrent

Anyway, capital punishment is the easy way out for the perpetrator. Look at the number of those who have committed dreadful crimes against others who commit suicide in prison to avoid a life sentence - Harold Shipman, Fred West - and those are just the names that spring immediately to mind, there are many others.

Let those who commit crimes like this serve life sentences, with no minimum term.

Capital punishment may not be a deterrent, but it does rid the world of sick individuals who do not /cannot change their behaviour. Alternatively castration / medication should be manadatory .

MOnica, capital punishment may sometimes kill an innocent person. It damages those who inflict it. High levels of alcohol addiction, depression and some suicides amongst former hangmen.

I do not believe in capital punishment - never have. But this excuse for a human doesn't deserve to share our air. Heartbreaking. I hope to god they can heal this poor wee mite.

It is only by talking and listening to these man that there may one day be a way of saving children . Once they are dead ?

Iam64, I am NOT a supporter of capital punishment, in fact I have never supported it, ever. I merely pointed out the number of serial murders who find the thought of life imprisonment a worse punishment than death and kill themselves by committing suicide. Which is the best argument for life imprisonment for those who commit vile crimes, like the one considered on this thread.

I am not sure why you read my post as supporting capital punishment.

I'm one of those who wishes life meant life and not seven years. I am happy to pay my taxes for prisons to be built. There are sins which make one hate the sinner whatever people say about hating the sin but loving the sinner.

Stansgran, lifers are set a tariff based on the circumstances of their crime. That mean that the judge sets a minimum time they have to serve. I often read of it being 20 or 30 years and there are quite a number of people sentenced to a life tariff, which means they will never be released, Harold Shipman, the Moors murderers and many more. In fact the number sentenced to life sentences with very long minimum sentences or life sentences has been increasing in recent years.

MOnica, sorry, read and posted at speed. Your post didn't support the death penalty.
Your subsequent post about the length of life sentences is helpful because many people seem to be under the impression that a life sentence means only 8 years. Some prisoners are considered so dangerous they are never released.

many people seem to be under the impression that a life sentence means only 8 years.
Actually, a life sentence does mean life, in that their sentence hangs over them for life and is never expunged. In really severe cases, the judge can order a 'whole life sentence', which means the prisoner will never be released. The majority of life prisoners are given a minimum term of imprisonment, but are released on lifetime parole. That means they're monitored and any reoffending, or breaking the terms of their parole, will immediately send them back to prison for an indefinite period without any further trial.

I wonder how closely they're monitored.
My friends family member was wearing a tag and has moved 40 odd miles away and nobody knew.

I have heard of this before but it makes me violently sick to think about the perverts who do this that I am afraid I couldn’t read about it. My eldest is a SW and I know she has had similarly horrific cases to deal with so my hat off to her and to all the other professionals who have to deal with these petverted creatures

I've very gingerly come onto this thread because of my beliefs in capital punishment.

I'd have no compunction in giving such monsters a lethal injection. I'd willingly do it myself because I feel very strongly about the monsters who commit such heinous crimes as this.

I can't read details of such, the same as I either turn the sound down or change channels if it comes on the news so that I'm not left in a blubbering heap at the thought.

There's no place in society for these mongrels !!

There was another case about a year ago, there is no punishment bad enough, the police should have allowed him to escape and let the locals deal with him. As it is he is going to be protected from harm for the rest of his days at great expense.

I don't think it is porn, there was an awful lot of historical sex crime and abuse from the past is now coming to light, before porn was widespread. Years ago an offender like that would have gone to a general prison, it is unlikely that he would have survived long enough to get to court. The other prisoners would have made sure he got the justice he deserved. It would have been a suicide or an accident no publicity.