Cinderella

Well, if youi think she'd enjoy movie (and unless you've had specific instructions to contrary) I should let her see it at yours. My elderly mother is friendly with a couple of teens from a hugely religious home and they get to watch 'unsuitable' costume dramas etc with her. None of us get to 100% control our child, like a possession. As soon as they go to school, they'll imbibe other ideas, beliefs...and have to make their own choices.

I don't think (re other comment) that an elderly woman seeking a partner for money is so bad. Of course, she's got to put up with him, so has to be fairly ok. But we have to be realistic; marrying a lovely pauper for his looks and charm may not be very helpful in the long term. You want a life, days out, turn the heating on without fear. And friendship. And I think she may gain all that- better than being alone and poverty stricken!

I thought it was Sleeping Beauty that was causing complaints because the prince kisses her while she's unconscious and couldn't "give consent".

Just forget it, none of your business. You don't even know what was really said - a case of he said she said by children.
Totally agree that you should not undermine a parents decision.

I remember when the teletubbies first came out there was uproar ! I never understood why, children weren't watching it 24/7 , it's the same with Cinderella, balance their viewing with other stuff. I don't think many of us took fairy stories literally.

It does make me laugh that the same generation who abhor Fairy Tales just love the 50 Shades of Grey trilogy and many impressionable young people have read the books, etc. Talk about a tale of misogyny and emotional abuse but hey ho.

K N should stick to acting. As children grow older and life becomes more and more interesting I hardly think fairy tales will be uppermost in their mind.

When I was a child I read the original Grimm tales some of which were quite gruesome but it did me no harm. Difference between fiction and real life.

I think we often underestimate the common-sense of children. Last week I was helping my four and a half year old granddaughter to sew a felt toy. She told me to be careful about pricking my finger - I said that if I did I might fall asleep for a hundred years, only to be told by her "That's only an old fairy story Grandma - it's not real..."

Non of your business

What have we done to create this "snowflake" generation? It's a fairy story, just a fairy story. Unfortunately, my prince turned out to be a toad, not even a frog!

mabon1, certainly succinct.

starbox re my acquaintance: she absolutely does not want to offer anything herself to this potential white knight. Companionship etc is not on her radar. It's hard to convey the lack of emotion around her blatant search for just money really. It's very odd. You'll note I've used the term acquaintance throughout.

Oldgaijin, everyone needs a sense of humour & this made me laugh. I respect there’s been a few here who have added ‘non of your business’ The fact is it’s everyones business to make sure traditional fairy tales remain with us & are published for those parents & children who see the benefits, especially the rhyming versions. There’s nobody more supportive of girls having the same opportunities etc as boys in life than me but to say fairy tales are a bad influence on girls is ridiculous. It’s our responsibility to ensure children are given a broad spectrum of reading material, not just the stuff we so happen to believe in. They will be what they want to be,despite what we want them to be.

If I did something my DiL asked me not to, I wouldn't expect to be allowed to have my DGD overnight.

Hm999 I mentioned in a later post my DIL has no intentions of ever going against parents wishes & neither would I. I explained it was a throw away comment because like a lot of people these days, even as a young mother,she is becoming expaspirated with everything becoming so PC these days people are afraid to say or do anything without offending someone. She thought she was being kind to a new mum recently when she met her in town & said “ What a beautiful baby,she is so pretty’ The reply she got was “thanks but I prefer if people didn’t say that,especially as she gets older as it’s not something I want her to place that much importance on’ laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

Why is it so wrong these days to be called pretty & feminine

Does anyone think it is wrong to be pretty and feminine? That is the trouble with your anti-PC rant, you do not even know the reasons that mother has.

My dd doesn't particularly forbid my dgd from watching Disney fairy-tales but notices unhealthy changes in her when she does. It's not that it is bad to be pretty, it is the message that being pretty is an amazing virtue.

And yes everything that we read, see, hear and experience has an influence on our perception of the world, especially when a child is small and trying to figure it all out.

Coyoacan, it is also what is seen as prettiness in the Disney films. That’s what I find particularly objectionable.

Coyoacan, the day we don’t recognise beauty in each other, whether inside,outside or both,will be a sad day indeed. I think I speak for a lot of people on this forum who are tired of this latest trend towards being PC in everything we say or do,often leading to irrational offence.If healthy discussion and sharing opinions is classified as ranting,then let’s rant on. It might not change peoples views but at least it gives food for thought. Actually for me anyway this Particular rant is over. I work from home & I’m recognising I’m now becoming too distracted so possibly not the best idea to join in the first place. I do hope people feel free to continue on this topic though as there are so many who feel the same nowadays.

Grandma70,my teenage niece is the absolute replica of snowhite in the Disney film & people are always saying this to her. Is she pretty? absolutely! Is she humble, very intelligent & a lovely person? Absolutely! If that’s objectionable then this is why I for one will always stick up for the Disney lookalike girls who naturally have this type of look through genetics & there are many about. I believe beauty comes from within & it’s also in the eye of the beholder. We still can’t hide from the fact there will always be some girls who are born classically very pretty & ‘girly’ & there’s nothing wrong with recognising it in my opinion & that’s all it is, my opinion!

Mabon1, I could mention spelling and punctuation. ???

I don't know about anything else but has this PC rot been purposely manufactured to cause/create disharmony ? Going by the many who've been brainwashed by this dangerous practice its insidious way of life is becoming the norm in every area of life as we once knew it.
Gone will be the free speech and democracy for fear of upsetting those who hold anything PC firmly in their grip.
It's no longer the country that I was born in and will be totally unrecognisable in the next century, something I'm sure I won't be worrying about but at the moment I remain to be a non-conformist/freethinker without the need to be treading on anyone's toes.

Well said EllanVannin. It’s about time people recognised that disharmony is exactly what it is causing.We should be seeking to live together in peace,recognising & accepting each other’s strengths & weaknesses, girls & boys alike. I’m off now having realised I’m becomming too distracted from my work but it’s been good to chat :-)

Springleaves, I was thinking more of the Disney Cinderella, the unnaturally blonde, artificial, very curvy look. Snow White is much prettier!

If I may just add to that - I think I find Cinderella and other Disney portrayals of females over-sexualised. Not appropriate in films for children.

Didn't we all read fairy stories as children and watch fantasy films? Yes I did watch Mary Poppins and try to fly in the wind with my umbrella but I also knew it was a story and if I snapped my fingers my toys would not tidy themselves up. It's not just Disney films of heroes and heroines or being called beautiful (I never was btw ) all books and films are based on fiction of some kind or another - that's why we get involved in them and escape to another world whatever age we are.

The whole PC debate is just ridiculous and before long no one will dare say anything!