Cinderella

Sorry but isn’t it her parents decision what she is or is not allowed to watch, they may have very good reasons for what they’ve said and I don’t think it’s up to you or your DIL to go against that. If the tables were turned would you be happy if they allowed your GS to watch something you deemed unsuitable?

Do you think that this has come from celebrities such as Keira Knightly, and her views expressed on TV recently?
I understand that there will not be a prince waiting for every little girl, but we grew up watching reading fairy tales, and knew the difference between them and real life.

The comment came from a pre-schooler, how do you know the Mum was not just having a bad day and did not really feel like watching Cinderella for the 5th time that week.
Anyway how many times do we see, our house our rules on here.
Talk about getting things out of proportion. Ah well here comes the spiteful abuse.
They are Fairy Tales, just that.
Now to put the cat amongst the Pigeons, DGS was watching Tom & Jerry this morning,,,,, the originals. On Netherlands TV. I asked him do you think they are violent, he said 'grandma it's a cartoon, dont be silly'.

But it is not up to you or your daughter in law to undermine another parent's decision, whether you agree with it or not. You would also be putting the child in a very difficult position. Are you going to tell her to keep a secret from her parents? Is that really a good idea? Are you going to encourage her to do something her parents have told her she is not allowed to do? Is that a good idea?

This is how my granddaughter views Princesses !

Anyway the child may not attend the 'possible' birthday party, so the whole thing is rather silly really.
Also the parent would have to strictly instruct the hosts that the child was not allowed to watch Cinderella.
How many children now watch 60 year old cartoons at a party.
Bit of a wind up here I think.

Nope. I think 'trendy mums' are
jumping on the Keira Knightley bandwagon!
Let them have their princesses but balance them out with Roald Dahl's irreverent and hilarious Revolting Rhymes!

I think the OP daughter in law was joking and said it in jest. Probably as tired as I am with the stupid PC,giving out the wrong message crap.

Did any child ever really believe that fairy stories had anything to do with them? I read them all and never felt my life was not complete without a Prince Charming. Stories are stories and life is life. I knew the difference from a very young age.

What formed my attitudes was my home - parents who had a marriage of absolute equality and a mother who worked and the assumption that I would have a profession and career. As my mother said, better single than unhappily married.

If my child was invited to a birthday party and I agreed that she / he could go, I would trust the parents to provide suitable entertainment.
I would be influencing my child with my ideas at home.
However I would not be so blinded by current thinking as to cut all fairy stories etc out.
Children are not stupid, how many of us still eat gingerbread given the chance.

I assume this is about the Disney version of Cinderella.

I have no objections to the story. It’s traditional fairy tale stuff. I do object to the Disney portrayal of ‘pretty’ females.. It’s pure male fantasy, Marilyn Monroe/Barbie doll looks. The tiny waist, big bust, wide eyes, hair unnaturally blonde.

My children never saw these films, because when they were small in the 70s it was relatively easy to regulate what children watched, but my grandchildren probably have. I wouldn’t stop children watching them, but if the children were old enough I would start a discussion.

Real life is family, work and school.

Fairy stories wether they be Disney or Grimm are just Fairy stories.

Over thinking seems to be a 21st century addiction.

No discussion should be necessary if equality is embedded in the family culture.

In reply to those who have quite rightly mentioned it’s not up to my DIL to allow the girl in question to watch Cinderella at her house against the parents wishes. I should have made myself clearer. There’s no way she would actually do this. It was said in a tongue in cheek irritated type of way due to being tired of everything being so pc nowadays people are afraid to open their mouths. As far as Disney princesses go, I don’t think they will be going anywhere soon. Why is it so wrong these days to be called pretty & feminine. Most of the females in my family are naturally very feminine & dare I say it,very pretty.They are also professionals. A fairy tale is exactly that. I suppose I’m just saying it annoys me to think people can actually take them literally and not see the fantasy which encourages kids to use their imaginations and make their own minds up about any ‘perceived’ messages.

I was appalled recently to find that an acquaintance in her 60s was seriously looking for a wealthy man to come along and solve all her many problems. The rest of us could hardly believe what she was saying. However, she's completely in earnest and oblivious to the extreme unlikely ness of her 'solution'. I blame Cinderella!

Oh why can’t they let children just be children.
I and my 3 DDs were perfectly aware that fairy stories were just that but a little bit of magic, and imagination is all part of growing up.
Just off now to check that the fairies at the bottom of my garden stayed dry and warm in their house last night.

Jane 10. I can see no problem with your friend in her 60s looking for love and if it’s with someone who has worked hard all his life to earn his income then all the better. I believe in male & female equality in the work place but where love and companionship is concerned, does it really matter who in the partnership has accumulated the most money & possessions. I don’t think those are the attributes which makes someone more powerful in a relationship. On reflection,for your friend to actually admit it would be nice to find a man on his own,willing to share his life with her & possibly his wealth, then I can’t see anything wrong with her feelings on this. By all means teach females to ‘do it for themselves’ but the idea that it’s wrong to help each other financially or otherwise is sad in my opinion.

springleaves- my acquaintance is not looking looking for love or someone to share her life with. She wants someone with money to solve her various problems. It was quite chilling really yet also quite childlike.

springleaves
did you see this thread?
www.gransnet.com/forums/aibu/1253551-Sleeping-Beauty

As someone upthread said, there is a lot of 'over-thinking' going on these days.
Fiction is just that - fiction and even tiny children can tell the difference.
Even 3 year old DGD realises that no-one in RL mends a sprained ankle with a cobweb (Little Grey Rabbit)!

Oh Dear Jane10 that’s just wrong on all accounts :-( The lady is not doing herself any favours if wealth is her only motive when looking for a potential soulmate. Love solves more problems than money although admittedly it can make life a bit easier in some respects.

Well, Jane10 I did suggest it to one of my DD ("and preferably very old, dear"). The look she gave me could have frozen Hell.
I still don't think she believes I was joking.

jalima, thanks for the link. I don’t think I’m being old fashioned when I say fairy tales are nothing more than fantasy tales ,which if anything encourage young children to use their imagination. After discussion around the story they can make there own minds up and even question the morals in the stories,which can only be healthy. Incidentally this is from a forward thinking first time gran who believes in equality of the sexes but also recognises the differences between boys & girls which a lot of PC thinking appears to want to merge into something which can only result in total confusion for the poor children at the crux of it. Anyway I’ll finish on this topic now as my intentions are not to offend but to share my own thoughts on some of the latest trends.

My 2 older DGD’s (12 and 10) love Merida the heroine from the film Brave .

She’s feisty, a bit wild and rides like the wind. Just like they do.

Gillybob, your DGDs sound amazing. I was a typical Merida as a child & later on at age 14 I even played football with a local 5 a side girls team before it was fashionable for girls. I also loved my dolls & prams & ribbons & bows & dreamt of being a ballerina,or a ballroom dancer with one of those huge sticky out dresses ?