ISIS girl

As for breaking international law by depriving her illegally of her British citizenship are you serious? Two would then play at that game

What should happen to her? Let her just try to make the best of things in a refugee camp. Actions have consequences. Harsh I know, but also a lesson for others who share her attitude.

If she makes her way to a country with consular access to the UK ( Iraq Turkey) the UK cannot refuse to have her back and the Government has made that clear so it’s irrelevant whether anyone thinks she should be allowed home. We still have the rule of law in this country and for that should be very grateful

I guess she only married an IS man. I don't think she did any killing herself.So what could she be convicted of?

I presume she didn’t lie because she honestly believes in the sick ideology.

Nonnie the letter thing is baffling isn’t it?

I think it should become law that if you leave to fight with isis you loose your brutish citizenship. I am aware that’s breaking international law but we still have treason laws? If she gets back here couldn’t she be tried for treason?

I too have read about the plight of the Yazidi women and actually couldn’t finish the article it was so awful.

What about Ab?

Why didn’t she lie

Trouble is, it would be hard to get her home as we don't have an embassy in Syria now. She would have to make her own way to Turkey.

If she were to be brought back and could be "de-brainwashed" she would be an excellent ambassador to go into schools and talk to schoolchildren about the dangers of falling into the trap she did.

I think it should be up to the Syrians to judge her, not us.

I wonder how she feels about the poor Yazidi women.
They deserve our compassion. This woman deserves none.

I'm horrified to hear her dismiss unbelievers' heads in bins as 'enemies of Islam

She showed no remorse, no understanding of the evil that has been perpetrated and what constitutes a civilised society.

No she is NOT very young - she is 18 years old and left home at 15. She is not a child.

Mycat neither can I understand how they got away as they were already on the radar of the authorities. As I said above they were given letters to take home to tell their parents what they were up to. Really? That being the case it is hardly surprising that they were allowed to leave the country.

Can we take away the passport of someone who is British and has no other nationality? I know we can if they have dual nationality.

I do have compassion for her, she is very young. I just don't think we should bring her back with all that would entail. I condemn what she has done.

Compassion is fine - and she was brainwashed when a child, which is immensely sad, and frankly evil - but this is what she has said:

........ seeing her first "severed head" in a bin "didn't faze me at all".
"It was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.
"I thought only of what he would have done to a Muslim woman if he had the chance," she said.

Clearly she still believes that anyone who is not muslim is an "enemy of Islam" and it is OK to behead them.

It is sad that she was brainwashed into that mindset; but that does not chime well with values in this country so sadly I do think she should stay where she is.

She was a child when it all kicked off - but now she is an adult, and her views are abhorrent, however acquired.

Fair points MOnica

I still can’t understand how 3 teenagers were allowed to get in on the plane in the first place without adult authority although of course an adult may have accompanied them? Hopefully things are tighter at airports now!

I sadly find myself agreeing with most of you. What taints any compassion I may feel, is her attitude gleaned from the article in the Times. She doesn't have the fear or remorse I would have expected.

But I do wonder where people with British passports go when they have them withdrawn. The World will have to decide what to do with these people now. Frightening prospect.

We mention compassion, but it is a quality she lacks. She is a follower of ISIS.

Those who wish to blow us up, maim, and destroy western civilisation have no regard for life and a very twisted value system and broken moral compass. This girl is one of them and she should not be in our midst. The UK is not a rehabilitation unit for cold blooded murderers.

Her age is irrelevant. Her views about the 'infidels' in the west - you and me and those we love - are.

Yes, but I did say that my compassion was in thought only for a woman so young who has already lost two children.

As I said, my compassion does not extend to accepting her back in this country nor should the British government going to any lengths to rescue her from her current predicament.

MOnica

I might feel some compassion for her if she had shown any for the actions of isis. She didn’t She doesn’t deserve my compassion but yours is yours to give.

I hope the baby can be taken from her though so he/she has a chance. It has none staying with a mother like her.

mycatisahacker, yes, I do have compassion for this woman and deplore some of the hate language used against her on this thread.

I can see that in her initial flight to ISIS and the first months of zealot fervour, it is likely that she could be described as groomed. I have nothing but compassion for a 19 year old girl who has already given birth to two children who have died of illnesses that are entirely treatable, were medicines available and the effects of malnutrition and is now awaiting the birth of a third child.
But
This woman has now been in ISIS territory for four years and nothing she has seen and heard in that time: the brutality, to Muslim and non-Muslim alike, to the terrible, terrible, fate of the Yazidis, especially the women, whom she must have met and known their fate, none of this has done anything to dent her belief in ISIS and the rightness of their actions, and that passes the behaviour of anyone who was initially groomed but also makes it difficult for compassion to take on any practical form.

The British government has pointed out that they have no diplomatic relations with Syria and do not want to put consular staff at risk to rescue her. If she can get to Turkey, they will consider what they can do, as much, I think, for the baby as the mother.

But all this will cost a lot of money and we have to ask why we should spend huge sums of money, including the costs of support, care and surveillance of someone who has shaken the dust of Britain of her feet, expressed views - and lived them - that would threaten the lives of many in this country and is utterly unrepentant of those views and still espouses them.

She has been out there FOUR YEARS! She made a choice. Sorry, but no. If she returns she would pose a huge security risk to U.K. residents and we taxpayers would have to pay to have her monitored!
That said, we all know .... she’ll be back.
The same as the 850 previous British brides who went out to Syria to wed ISIL’s finest and have since returned over the years.
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Grammaretto
sentanced in England there is hope for reform for her and others like her
Your obviously unaware that most radicalisation goes on
inside our prisons

I saw this girl on the news last night and I did think what a strange interview, on the one hand she says she wants to come back to Britain to live quietly for the sake or her child, but did little to ingratiate herself to the general public on many levels. She stated that she wasn't fazed be seeing a severed head, which would be a clear indicator that she is lacking in any sort of empathy for what was a fellow human being. She also stated something along the lines of, that person was captured on the battlefield and was therefore an enemy of Islam, illustrating an entrenched and continuing mindset that anyone who isn't of that extreme persuasion justified such a fate. Given her shocking attitude I wonder why she gave the interview it was hardly likely to garner any support, or is she so out of touch

Yes they were, as she stated herself, foolish young 15 year olds, I'm sure like many I was one myself once, but our state of foolishness didn't included wanting to harm anyone. ISIS were, particularly vile in their de facto capital Raqqa, allegedly a lovely place where cafe culture and a relaxed way of life prevailed before they rolled up and unleashed hell. Like other foreign occupiers they behaved in the most brutal and appalling way towards the indigenous citizens, particularly the foreign ISIS women who were very cruel to the women of Raqqa, spying on them and beating them if they didn't follow the draconian set of rules they were expected to abide by. That along with the acts of genocide they committed against the Yazidis. All in all it's hard to find any sympathy with her really.

I followed the struggles of the Yazidi people for a long time but I had to stop because it was too distressing.

is there really no compassion for this young person?

Nothing in her words to the journalist displayed and compassion or remorse for her actions so no there’s none from me.

My compassion goes to victims of violence and terrorism not the supporters or perpetrators.