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petunia Fri 19-Apr-19 09:56:48

I read an interesting piece today about a genetic component to being thin and weight gain. I found it interesting because the study that found this gene is a study I have been part of. Biobank. The study is far ranging and has been ongoing for at least 10 years. It looks into diet, lifestyle, some medical type investigations-MRI scans, body measurement etc. of thousands of people who joined up, all those years ago.

Anyway, there seems to be a gene that about 6% of the population have that regulates appetite and weight gain. The lucky lucky 6% can eat exactly what they like and stay the same weight. The others, myself included, have the dice stacked against them as far as weight is concerned.

This makes some sense to me. We all know the skinny minnies who can eat tons and never gain an ounce. And we all know those that regulate their weight constantly with huge effort. We also know those, like me, who struggle to loose weight, can not afford to relax one moment yet still, over time, find that that dial go ever upwards.

The study, I'm sure, doesn't recommend that people without the gene shrug their shoulders and say, what the heck, pass the doughnuts. But maybe an understanding that our genetic background plays a part and that those souls lacking the gene are fighting an uphill battle, forever.

I know that some of the responses here will advocate eat less and move more, and they are right. But a little understanding of the forces of genetics and learned behaviour would be welcome. Not all fatties are eating lard sandwiches and drinking tea with 4 sugars.

Just saying.

Allykat1946 Sun 21-Apr-19 11:58:04

Terrible what child birth and menopause can do... I find to lose weight I have to have one normal meal a day and that is around 6pm the other meal is a big mug of coffee for breakfast around 10am and one piece of fruit for lunch around 2pm.. with lots of green tea all day to stave of hunger pangs...

Poppyred Sun 21-Apr-19 12:04:19

Yes I agree it is all down to genes. My sister and I both struggle to keep our weight down on a daily basis. Anyone who says “Eat less, move more” ...Well I just want to smack their smug faces! ??

petunia Sun 21-Apr-19 12:52:37

The study suggests that just 6% of the population have a gene that tells them when to stop eating and so curbs the amount of food they eat. I once worked with someone who could eat half a bar of chocolate, then either throw the rest away or save it till later. My colleagues and I were awestruck at this. May she had this gene.

I also work with someone who, if she feels she is putting on weight, will not eat until the weight has gone back to normal. That may be several days to a week.

Others seem to eat everything in sight all day but then spend every moment of leisure at the gym, pounding the pavements or spinning class

I think if we scratch the surface, there are lots of eating habits that can not be healthy but as the individual looks OK, we don't comment. Yet catch a chubby person with a bag of crisps in public and they may as well be clubbing baby seals.

Pix5 Sun 21-Apr-19 13:14:49

I look exactly like the females in my dad's family, short, heavy and busty.

sarahellenwhitney Sun 21-Apr-19 13:40:23

It has to be metabolism. I have always been a skinny no matter what I eat. Both my parents were skinny.

Kim19 Sun 21-Apr-19 13:55:15

Poppy red, nothing smug here. Just huge gratitude that a regime worked for me at long last. The benefits are quite amazing.

Poppyred Sun 21-Apr-19 14:44:17

Good for you Kim19. I eat 2 very small meals a day, very low carb and very healthy and do a daily walk of nearly 5 miles and still struggle to maintain my current weight never mind trying to lose weight.

My body is in starvation mode from years of dieting which has got me absolutely nowhere!

petunia Sun 21-Apr-19 15:41:03

Poppyred,are you my twin?

I am constantly watching what I eat, often restricting certain things, aiming for smaller portions, low carb, counting calories, slimming world etc., and trying hard to do at least 10,000 walking steps a day (not pottering about steps) and being active most of the day, yet I'm still 3 stone over what I should be.

Its the yo yo dieting that does for us all.

Each decade takes me further away from the ideal me. I cant see an end to it. I shall battle till my dying day. And this is what makes me angry about fat shamming. The stranger has no idea of knowing where that fat person is on that journey or why. That woman, eating the crisps in public could be having a long awaited treat for loosing several stone. The one who struggles to walk up hill may be on medication that has weight gain as a side effect. More likely its a person who daily worries and has mental battles over every mouthful of food. Not every fat person got there by shovelling doughnuts and chocolate into their mouths every waking moment.

Kim19 Sun 21-Apr-19 16:20:11

Poppyred, based on the fact that I know nothing but got lucky, I have read somewhere that starvation diets cause the metabolism to kick into some kind of preservation mode. Maybe you are 'underdoing' the eating? And, I humbly add, what would I know. Just sharing.

Florence64 Sun 21-Apr-19 16:39:59

I reckon I eat about a third of what I ate when I was in my 20's and yet I'm three times as heavy!

When I was a young woman I ate cereal for breakfast with full fat milk, then possibly a mars bar on the way to work, then maybe a cake mid morning. The company I worked for provided a free lunch so that was usually pie and chips, followed by a pudding. Then in the evening I would cook another dinner - perhaps chops, peas and new potatoes for my then husband and myself. I was about a size 10, but I did walk to work and back, which was a good three quarters of an hour walk - all up hill on the way back.

Now I am immense. I don't eat breakfast because I find it makes me feel hungry in the afternoon if I do. I have something like tuna or ham salad for lunch. I've given up yogurts in a bid to try and kick-start my weight loss. Then I eat nothing until tea time when we have a spaghetti bolognase or similar. Any meat I have is less than 5% fat and I rarely eat any kind of ready meal. Even if we have a take away I will opt for a 'healthy' option and do things like take most of the batter of the fish. I have recently started using a smaller plate for my portions because I'm still gaining weight! I do eat chocolate, but not every night, maybe 2-3 times a week. I can't exercise because I'm too fat and asthmatic.

I know people judge me, but I honestly don't know how I got like this. I used to be so fit and slim, but now I hate going out because of how I look.

travelsafar Sun 21-Apr-19 17:12:16

I am another who struggles with her weight and always have to be strict with what i eat.No home baking anymore except on special occasions as it is just pointless to have a lovely cake or scones in the kitchen and have to deny yourself. Plus since having issues with my back i am now also struggling to stand really upright as well which makes me look even fatter and more frumpy. There is no pleasure in clothes shopping anymore as nothing ever looks right and anyone who hasn't had these struggles is so lucky.

janeainsworth Sun 21-Apr-19 17:42:34

I have read somewhere that starvation diets cause the metabolism to kick into some kind of preservation mode. Maybe you are 'underdoing' the eating?
Kim my thoughts too.

NannyEm Sun 21-Apr-19 23:39:51

I was pleased when magazines started talking about "apple" shapes or figures. I'm not a pear, or an hourglass......just an apple

OPgrndtr Mon 22-Apr-19 03:10:24

After the fruit figures I just had to add my two cents. My DM is an apple shape with great legs, but my genes came from my Dad's DM. His mom had 4 sisters and they all had hourglass figures as do I, but every one of us has an hour and a half worth sand in our hourglasses. That's a good family joke for us.

Grammaretto Mon 22-Apr-19 09:05:23

The genes definitely play a big part. Doing genealogy for years and looking at old photos i know there are fat ladies under the crinolines.
Queen Victoria asked her adviser how she could get thinner.
Only eat when you are hungry came the reply. But I'm always hungry said she.
Access to food must be a factor too. Dogs get fat too if they are overfed and horses.
I lost 2 stone at weight watchers once but having achieved my goal much clapping I didn't want to stay on a boring diet. Guess what? It's all gone back on shock

GrandmaPam Tue 23-Apr-19 08:20:02

Mini Moon....was happily agreeing with your post until your last sentence - "no size 16 for me" OMG, do you consider size 16 to be horrendous? There is no hope for us!