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How to deal with a sociopath?

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NudeJude Sun 19-May-19 12:30:20

My daughter has been living with a sociopath for 3 1/2 years, how can I make her realise that his behaviour is NOT normal? Does anyone have any experience of this, and if so, what, if anything, were you able to do?

Back story: He's managed to isolate her from everyone she knew before she met him, including myself, 2 out of 3 of her children, and all of her friends. Everyone tried to warn her about what he was doing, but of course he was so clever that he was able to manipulate her into thinking that he was the only one that really loved her, and that she only needed him.

Just very occasionally she let's slip a glimpse of the person she used to be, but contact between us these days is so stilted that I got to a point recently where I almost gave up, when all she had to write to me about after 3 weeks of no contact was the weather. He reads everything she writes to me, and will make sure he hears every single word that is exchanged between us on the rare occasion that we are able to speak on the phone, so it's impossible to say anything to her that he doesn't know about.

Over time, after the vile things that she has said and done, I'd begun to think that she'd changed of her own accord, but having this morning read up on the subject of sociopathy, I realise that it's all part of his control and training of her, and now feel that I want to do something to help her see how abusive this relationship is. HELP!!!

rosecarmel Mon 20-May-19 17:41:12

NudeJude, I think the wheel that BradfordLass offered is an invaluable tool that you can use to learn the workings of a controlling relationship and in turn help your daughter-

The following is what I have personally experienced and carried out on my own- I ever so slowly changed my tone from heavy with concern to light as a feather, not mentioning anything personal or expressing worry- Discussed weather, hobby, the news, anything the individual is interested in-

In time, as exchanges became more frequent, the individual began to offer bits of information, not to be commented on immediately, but simply understood with an even acceptance of what's being said-

I learned to express a bit of interest, and concern where applicable, in the partner/husband/wife, be it their well being or struggle or hobby, so forth -- initiate them into the conversation, gently-

Doing this over the course of months/years .. (it can take time..) the person slowly surfaced from the clutches of the control enough to recognize, on their own, the dynamic of the relationship, the impact it was having and finally re-established their confidence enough to begin to do something about it-

Be confident- Good luck-

Glammy57 Mon 20-May-19 17:41:41

Something which I should have mentioned in my original reply - a personality disorder can only be diagnosed by a mental health professional, such as a psychiatrist.
Regardless, Nudejude’s daughter is obviously in a controlling relationship.

ElizabethKathryn Mon 20-May-19 18:26:00

Our daughter is married to someone who is controlling and manipulative. He is a pastor! They are both living 1400 miles away from where we are living and where my daughter grew up. He has very craftily gotten her back to his home territory and had convinced her that she had a materialistic viewpoint her of childhood life; friends from her growing up years as well as her parental influence was not good for her spiritually or personally. We have very limited access to her or our two grandchildren. We are heartbroken.

Swanny Mon 20-May-19 19:54:03

My heart goes out to all who are/have experienced this kind of relationship. It took me a long time (and cost me a lot mentally as well as financially) before I was finally able to say No and Get Out.

I lost contact with some acquaintances, who I thought were friends, so I'm sure he turned on the charm to them and made out he was the one who'd suffered. I don't care. I'm happier without him than I ever was with him and have rebuilt my life with people who care about me unconditionally. I'm just angry with myself that it took me so long to see the truth.

ayokunmi1 Mon 20-May-19 20:47:40

In the meantime re write reword your will

Pat1949 Mon 20-May-19 20:56:35

My daughter was married to one. Until she sees it herself you can't really do anything. Just be there for her.

Shizam Mon 20-May-19 21:43:58

It is now a recognised crime. Not sure how useful they will be, but could be worth contacting police.

blondenana Mon 20-May-19 21:56:10

My daughter too was married to a man like this,he controlled her completely, and slept with a knife above their bed, she o0ften had bruises and made excuses for how she got them, dshe escaped to a friends a long way away, then he threatened me and said when he found her he would shoot her, he finally persuaded her to come back, then tied her up, and threatened to kill himself and make her watch
I managed to speak to her after that and told her of something i had read,to ring 999 and leave the phone off the hook,and the police would trace it,they did and brought her to me
He was eventually arrested and jailed, but when he got out he hanged himself, awful to say about anyone, but what a relief to me
My daughter had a nervous breakdown and it took her a long time to recover
She now has a lovely man who thinks the world of her
I sincerely hope your daughter sees the light and gets rid of him,and i feel for you, as her mother
AS SAID, TRY TO KEEP COMMUNICATION OPEN WITH HER,Sorry caps by accident

trooper7133 Mon 20-May-19 22:47:18

I too was in a relationship like this many years ago. I was forbidden to see friends, forbidden to hang underwear on the washing line, had to keep my head bowed when we were out so as not to make eye contact with another man. He would meet me from work but arrive early and watch me through the window. He listened in to all phone calls, chose my clothes and forbade me to read magazines and novels. He told me if I ever left him he would hut me down and kill me. He also said he would kill my parents. I believed him and that’s why I stayed.
He abused me physically and emotionally and gave me sexually transmitted disease.
He eventually met somebody else and I walked out in only the clothes I was wearing. I moved to another part of the country having given in my notice at work unbeknown to him and started a new life.
I am a well educated professional with a first class honours degree and a master of science degree so far from stupid.
It all happened so gradually (because that is how sociopaths operate).
30 years on, I still live in fear of bumping into him.
Women have to leave these men even if it means they lose everything. They never change.

moggie57 Wed 22-May-19 12:14:48

omg that sounds like my daughters father. he made me break contact with my friends and penpals. he read all my letters .wiped tapes that i sent them.broke open my writing desk. tore up my photos of my dad.wanted his dinner on the table at 6pm every night.never looked after our daughter even though i had her all day and night(colic) my job...he said.. he left d when we went on holiday .he left her in her buggy at a seat on i.o.w and walked off. my mum and i caught up with him and said where was daughter ,he said she wouldnt stop crying so i left her back there.we rushed back and there she was red faced sobbing .luckily there was a passing police woman and she took control ,and gave him a severe ticking off .of course he blamed me ,your fault over and over. so he just walked off back to hotel and watched tv.holy whatsits i cant forget all the nasty things he did. took my jewellery including engagement ring( i took it off to do washing etc(no machines in the 1980's had to do in bath or sink)stuck a knife in kitchen door .good job i slammed it shut. . got to a point where i was so confused that i went to see a psyctrisist. who told me its not you its him..the breaking point was he told our daughter to be quiet on christmas day morning because he wanted to watch tv. i just exploded told him to bugger off. and how dare he say that . he said where do i go. told him back to his dads house......we did see him from time to time but it was about 4 years ago that he starting harassing daughter again to see grandchildren. d husband was adamant that he have no contact after knocking on door at midnight to see daughter and drop off money..got so bad i told him .i would have him up for harrassment if he contacted me or d again...your daughter needs you .be there for her. no take any c**p from her partner... . tell him he cant control you...

Nonnie Wed 22-May-19 12:58:12

I knew someone who was driven to suicide by his wife who was exactly like this.

Septimia Wed 22-May-19 13:51:57

You can't deal with a sociopath, just avoid them like the plague!
I agree with the others who say to keep communicating with your daughter in any way that you can and encourage other family and friends to do the same. It will disprove anything he might say about you not caring and one day, God willing, she will see him for what he is and know that she has people who really care about her.

blondenana Thu 23-May-19 17:13:48

I posted about my daughter being married to someone like this, but only through reading all posts did i realise i was also married to someone like this, twice
First husband wouldn;t let me go anywhere without him, and accused me of having men in when he was at work, when it was him who was having affairs,my sister took me to my mothers in another county, i had to leave when he was at work, with no money as he took what i had in my purse after me saying i was going to leave,i had to climb through a window with my 3 children
My second husband banned me from seeing friends, and and also was very controlling not allowing me any money apart from enough to buy food daily, also being cruel to my children, from first marriage, even killing my sons pet ferret, and said he would never accept them as his ,his mother never accepted them as her grandchildren either, and when his children were left 1000s by a relation of his, mine were left out
I can;t believe this has only just dawned on me after reading all these horror stories,
Buried it deep i think, rarely think about them and they have never bothered with my/ and their children either