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I feel sorry for Prince Harry
(1001 Posts)After looking at all the news reports etc I have come to the conclusion that Harry is really stuck in the middle of his wife and the RF. Meghan married Harry very quickly, which can cause difficulties in ‘normal’ families, but with the emotionally constipated RF it was a disaster waiting to happen. If someone like Diana, who had experience of royalty couldn’t cope with the way of life or the hold the courtiers have over proceedings, how could a feisty American. Catherine has only managed it because she and William took a very long time to get her settled into the RF.
Moving to a new country, getting married, having a baby and trying to fit into the RF is a heavy burden, and then being bullied completely by the press is enough to make anyone crack. The daily mail is still dredging up anyone they can to slate Meghan and Harry.
Harry is trying to protect his wife, and according to recent reports, has tried to initiate changes but has been rebuffed at every stage. I would think that seeing the photos on the Queen’s desk didn’t show him or Meghan or their son was hurtful and an indication that they no longer counted. The further photos of the 4 reigning/next in line would surely have pushed home that point.
Harry has slumped down the line of succession, the same thing that happened to Andrew, Anne and Edward. But they had each other to share this change of status and that surely made matters easier.
I think Harry feels very alone and impotent and is trying very hard to change things for his wife, but has had to make a huge fuss to get anyone to listen. If you add in his own personal problems then I am very surprised that he is still trying to go forward instead of just giving up. Perhaps now the RF will abandon their stiff upper lip and treat Harry better than they did Diana.
Sorry for long waffle.
I do hope all the bile poured on two people none of us knows, about a life none of us can imagine, has made going into the new year better for everyone.
GracesGranMK3 - indeed. The sheer unkindness is mind-blowing.
GracesGrang we choose to post on this thread and may
critcise two people in the public eye
We don’t pour bile on other posters , see the difference ?
No Annie I don't. I have never understood just how small people's lives must be for them to set out, not knowing anything about them or their lives, to ruin other people. It's a form of bullying which many seem to delight in. Even you must know what such opinionated trash, based on no real knowledge, can do.
I don't get vicious gossip and never have. I hope my life never reaches a point where I do.
Didn’t think you did GracesGran - your not alone -
the Mote and the Beam
a) Didn't think I did what?
and
b) What are you suggesting is "The Beam" - that I don't do vicious destructive gossip about people I don't know?
The thing is GGMK3 that for many celebrities even bad publicity is worse than no publicity. Meghan will now have to live in that world, so the small amount of unkindness shown on this thread is only the tip of the iceberg. Some might say she is even courting criticism to thrive.
I so agree with Jane10's post of 08:03:38. It's heartbreaking.
Some might say she is even courting criticism to thrive.
Then they would be malicious gossips wouldn't they as they don't actually know the people or the circumstances except for the minuscule bits we see.
Research shows that people who gossip the most have very high levels of anxiety. They are generally not particularly popular because they cannot be trusted. Spreading private information or negative judgments is painful to others and reflects poorly on the gossiper.
That is exactly how I and apparently many others see the vindictive gossip.
www.sowhatireallymeant.com/articles/personality-traits/gossip/
There is nothing Christian about some of the gossip.
Judge not....
Proverbs 26:20
For lack of wood the fire goes out, and where there is no whisperer, quarreling ceases.
I didn't know that one sparkii. As always a useful comment on human nature.
Back to topic of this thread .
I no longer feel sorry for Harry, he is 35 years old not the 12 year old who many wanted to mother.
He is one half of the ‘Sussex Brand’, he must have agreed to it.
I am sorry he suffered the death of his mother when so young,
but he has been spoilt . He didn’t choose to be born a royal, if
he wants out get out, not have the privileges but no sense of
duties which come with the privileges.
It sounds to me as if most of the unkind comments on this thread relate to the money issue.
Should Harry give away the legacy that he received from his mother?
Should Meghan give away the money she earned by hard graft in her chosen profession?
They are rich - end of.
Can they get themselves an ordinary job in a factory or office? - No; no-one would want them - they are too much of a security risk.
Can they avoid the need for security? - No. This has arisen because of Harry's membership of the royal family, an institution that exists by public consent and for the benefit of the nation. Keeping him and his family safe is a public responsibility; it is not a situation that he has had any choice about.
I am NOT a royalist - I just think that fair play and kindness are of primary importance.
I am ashamed by the way that this young couple has been hounded and vilified in the UK press. It is not acceptable.
GGMK3 interesting comments, but don't you think that in this day and age the "gossipers" aren't just a few old grannies with time in their hands, but rather the whole media circus which doesn't care as long as it sells. MM is inevitably through her old/new job part of the problem. She had the chance to change "jobs" but even that new role in the RF brought its own challenges. Maybe it will dawn on her one day that a life in the limelight attracts constant criticism. Harry on the other hand may actually be more perceptive in his understanding if how it all works as he has been subjected to it all for far longer. His desire to get away from it is actually more admirable than her silly longing to be famous.
The hate and bile on this thread never ceases to amaze me. Perhaps it's a part of loving the RF that you feel able to hate any member of it that doesn't behave the way you think they should.
One thing that doesn't seem to be taken into account is their child. I wonder if M&H looked at the way the RF treats children and didn't want that for their baby. Didn't want the full time Nanny, the boarding school, the 1950s dress sense. Maybe they hope to raise Archie differently. I wonder if H remembers all the publicity when he was out with Diana, the Christmasses he spent without her and how emotions are stifled. It really would make you want to leave wouldn't it.
H could have left the Royal Circus before but I think he knew he couldn't fit in anywhere else....
How would he earn a living?
He can't can he?
Apparently he has wanted "out" for ages.......
He has been too scared to leave and M gave him the push to do so.
I have no idea if he will go though.
He always seemed quite happy and enjoying life before Meghan arrived on the scene.
William and Kate just quietly get on with things. I don't want or need to hear about them neither do I want to hear about the other two.
Oscar Wilde said it all re gossip 'the only thing worse than being gossiped about is not being gossiped about' or in showbiz terms, 'there's no such thing as bad publicity.' Hmm
I don’t think he has wanted out for ages. He wanted time in
Africa he got it. He wanted to go to Afghanistan, he went even
though it meant he had guards. He seemed a free spirit, did what he wanted when he wanted .
My only worriy about this business is the fact she obviously has a PR agent working for her. Notice the visit to a women's refuge (thankfully no bananas about) and it has been suggested she was not involved in the Royal summit because you bet your life the same PR Agent would be at her side looking for exploitative avenues against the Royal Family.
Those who look to criticise the tone of this thread better watch out; RLB will be next on the rack!
Harry has the look of a thwarted brat about him. To be crude. he looks "pussy-whipped".
Notice the visit to a women's refuge
It now turns out Meghan didn't visit the refuge at all which is in a very unsavoury part of Vancouver but instead went to their administrative offices to 'boost staff moral'
They didn't even know she was coming. 
Funny how many people “know” the thoughts and feelings of people they don’t know apart from the details fed to us by the media. You “know “ that Meghan “craves publicity” - how do we know that? Maybe the press are hounding this couple for any bit of tittle tattle which can be used against them. She does a charity visit- but it’s because she “craves publicity” because he press has seized on the photos- maybe if they didn’t print the pictures you wouldn’t know about it. The staff at the women’s refuge welcomed her visit as it gave their charity some publicity - why wouldn’t they want that? But no- it’s used as evidence that Meghan only did it for selfish reasons - that’s your own interpretation and based on no evidence whatsoever ever.
If St Catherine visits a charity and there’s loads of pictures - is it because she “craves publicity”? Double standards abound when it comes to this couple.
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