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vampirequeen Fri 14-Feb-20 12:53:32

I absolutely love a good conspiracy theory. The more bizarre the better. My favourite atm is that ancient aliens were so technologically advanced compared to early man that they were mistaken for gods and the reason that we can't find the missing link is that it was created in an alien laboratory when they spliced hominid genes with their own.

I'm also keen on the JFK shooter on the grassy knoll, astronauts saw aliens and their bases on the Moon and that we actually don't exist other than as part of an alien simulator computer programme.

I don't believe any of them but they're fun and tbh just as reasonable in some ways as what we've been told is the 'truth'

Do you have a favourite conspiracy theory?

sazz1 Sat 15-Feb-20 15:16:05

Some theories are not a joke really. Like she was murdered and it wasn't a car accident, and Dr Kelly's suicide, and why twin towers collapsed so dramatically after being attacked by the planes.
I met a scientist once whose 2 friends disappeared after demanding to publish something they found out. 5 years later they were on the news as having just disappeared and government were concerned about them. Strange things happen in UK as well as other countries we condemn

Camelotclub Sat 15-Feb-20 16:19:19

I know people who seriously believe the Duke of Edinburgh engineered Diana's death. As far as I'm concerned, it was a drunken chauffeur and the fact she wasn't wearing a seat belt and being chased by the paparazzi.

I think people buy into these theories because it livens up their dull lives!

Callistemon Sat 15-Feb-20 16:26:31

Mr Spock - he is rather charismatic Chestnut, perhaps just to us aliens wink

NfkDumpling Sat 15-Feb-20 16:34:25

We went on a Nile cruise many years ago and our guide, a learned Bedouin was asked about how the enormously heavy obelisks were transported from the mine many miles upstream when they only had papyrus rafts back then. He reasoned it was aliens, as happened with those enormous those geoglyph things in Chile and the huge stone of Stonehenge. Aliens came once and perhaps are still here. I mean look at some of our world leaders...

Chestnut Sat 15-Feb-20 17:13:51

There is a thread about charisma Callistemon so maybe Mr Spock belongs there. Although sadly I've never met him in person to judge first hand ?
PS: there is actually an emoji for the Vulcan salute which shows how much he has influenced our lives! ?

DoraMarr Sat 15-Feb-20 17:35:09

Moon landings: there have been dozens of them
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_missions_to_the_Moon#Missions_by_date
They were stopped because of cost, and also because they were a bit of willy- waving by the US, Russian and Chinese governments and they weren’t really getting anywhere.
I agree, most of the other conspiracy theories are very hurtful to some people. My brother in law lost dozens of friends and associates in the Twin Towers. He had been there the week before. For people to claim that the US government carried it out is incredibly painful. Princess Diana was killed because her chauffeur was drunk and she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt. The inquest in Paris exonerated the paparazzi, but some ( I think two) were charged because they took photos of the crashed car. (They arrived after the crash.) The Sandy Hook conspiracy theory was disgraceful and I think Alex Jones should have been jailed.

quizqueen Sat 15-Feb-20 18:31:01

I love conspiracy theories and some have been proven to have a lot of truth in them over the years, so shouldn't just be poo-pooed. I went to an excellent talk about crop circles last week with the U3A.

I used to think it was aliens causing all matter of strange things but, because of the distance of travel involved and the fact that we have searching for signals within our galaxy and beyond for years, unsuccessfully, I am more inclined to open my mind now to the possibility of beings from our future returning to contact us, or something inter-dimensionally happening. We would be truly foolish to think our planet is the only one which contains life.

suziewoozie Sat 15-Feb-20 18:58:22

Generally speaking I have a theory that there is a direct relationship between being right wing and loving conspiracy theories. I think there is some evidence to support this theory on this thread.

suziewoozie Sat 15-Feb-20 18:59:07

I think it’s something to do with having a casual relationship with the truth

Elegran Sat 15-Feb-20 20:05:37

Did your U3A talk mention the many stories of people creating crop circles, quizqueen?

Callistemon Sat 15-Feb-20 20:41:26

I still can't do that Chestnut although I keep persevering. Yes, I was thinking of the charisma thread ?

Callistemon Sat 15-Feb-20 20:42:11

DS can do that so obviously inherited alien traits from DS and me.

Callistemon Sat 15-Feb-20 20:44:26

The only conspiracy theory I don't dismiss is the one about aliens visiting the earth.
I have an open mind about that as there are many unanswered questions about our origins.

Sofijade10 Sat 15-Feb-20 20:58:07

Love it!

Chestnut Sat 15-Feb-20 22:25:38

Oh dear suziewoozie has dropped in to throw a wet dishcloth on the conversation. Lighten up dear, it's just a bit of fun. Not everything has to be serious or relate to politics. Peace to you ?

suziewoozie Sat 15-Feb-20 23:20:07

The only aliens I know of are those on here who think Alex Jones and what he did to the Sandy Hook parents is ‘good for a laugh’ and a bit of fun’.

Eloethan Sat 15-Feb-20 23:58:24

But it appears that some of the events which are, orwould have been described as "conspiracy theories" are, or may be, true.

It took a long time for the British government to admit that soldiers had been exposed to dangerously high doses of radiation during nuclear testing.

A recent programme on the TV suggested that the attack on Pearl Harbour was either allowed to happen in order to convince the American people that the US should join the war, or happened due to poor communications.

In the US, many poor people - particularly black people, prisoners and disabled people - were the victims of numerous secret - and life-changing experiments.

Not all conspiracy theories are ridiculous.

suziewoozie Sun 16-Feb-20 07:56:02

Alex Jones is in a class of his own and to say ‘he’s always good for a conspiracy theory’ is horrible given Sandy Hook. The average conspiracy theorist is not interested in uncovering state secrets or fighting for justice. Specific campaigns to uncover serious truths are one thing, the utter vile conspiracy theories re the McCanns and Sandy Hook are quite another. A bit more light and shade doesn’t come amiss.

Magrithea Sun 16-Feb-20 08:21:05

@vampirequeen didn't you know that the Earth is a giant supercomputer made by the mice! H2G2 42 is the answer!!!!

Chemtrail Sun 16-Feb-20 09:40:59

It is physically impossible to get to the moon and impossible to communicate from it .as for history ,it is always documented by the winners,so conspiracy theories or propaganda?

Chestnut Sun 16-Feb-20 10:08:45

I suggest you watch '8 Days to the Moon and Back' Chemtrail. And why would it be 'physically impossible' to get to the moon and impossible to communicate from it? We have since travelled a lot further than that, so do you think all space travel is faked?

harrigran Sun 16-Feb-20 10:12:14

Give your head a wobble, Americans are communicating with space craft outside of our solar system. In real terms the moon is not that far away.

Callistemon Sun 16-Feb-20 10:12:24

Who is Alex Jones?

I had thought you meant the presenter from the One Show and thought that I'd never heard her propounding any conspiracy theories!

sarahellenwhitney Sun 16-Feb-20 11:20:25

Curleywirly
Why no more men on the moon? Possible ? hmm theory that mod tech has come 'down to earth' and that its resources are better spent getting its own world sorted before looking at others ?

Eglantine21 Sun 16-Feb-20 11:37:11

I’m convinced we evolved because aliens visited (or maybe were stranded) and spliced their DNA with ours.?

Anybody interested in what the Bible says?

“The sons of god saw the daughters of men were fair and took wives.”
“The Nephilim (giants?) were on the earth in those days and afterwards when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them.”

Genesis 6.