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Will today's younger generation start to grow there own

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12Michael Fri 03-Apr-20 10:51:02

Considering the closeness to a war like situation although this time its a bug or sorts.
Will today's young family's , if they have a house and land with enough room to start to grow there own vegetable crops in order to survive.
And seeing and eating something they have produced themselves and not off a supermarket shelf
Mick

notanan2 Fri 03-Apr-20 12:45:14

Do not diss those who have balconies as “privileged” or “well off” (is that a criticism anyway?) or write balconies off as unsuitable.

I didnt diss anyone.
I appreciate that having the ability to grow things doesnt make me superior to those who can't!

Not all balconies or sills are suitable.
A lot of the ones that are are already grown on.
The people who have the means do not have a monopoly on motivation
What a smug nasty thread

notanan2 Fri 03-Apr-20 12:40:28

Then if you are not claiming “superior knowledge” notanan* please do not shout me down contradicting when I say that many 30-40 year olds do whether in their tiny terraced house gardens or in balconie*

I didnt. I said that most of those who can, already do!

That is not contradictory!

gillybob Fri 03-Apr-20 12:32:27

Oh I’m feeling guilty now MawB was just trying to say I’d love an allotment but almost impossible to get one . Sorry .

On a positive note . I do have a small garden therefore I am very lucky compared with some . smile

MawB Fri 03-Apr-20 12:27:42

Then if you are not claiming “superior knowledge” * notanan* please do not shout me down contradicting when I say that many 30-40 year olds do whether in their tiny terraced house gardens or in balconies and many also have, or are on the waiting list for, allotments.
Do not diss those who have balconies as “privileged” or “well off” (is that a criticism anyway?) or write balconies off as unsuitable.
For heavens sake - why the negativity?
Might as well rename the site Groansnet ???

Riversidegirl Fri 03-Apr-20 12:15:57

The local nursery that sells (or did) on our city centre market is now doing mail order, delivering locally within 10 miles. Absolutely brilliant young plants, veg, herbs, flowers, etc etc. Can't wait for mine!

Gaunt47 Fri 03-Apr-20 12:12:42

In answer to your question Mick - I would hope so, but doubt it. Some young folk will of course.
But growing your own takes time and patience as well as a bit of soil and sunshine.
The horticultural industry has often complained that it is difficult to attract youngsters to work in the industry, because of low starting salaries and low levels of patience!

notanan2 Fri 03-Apr-20 12:11:35

The length of wait lists for allotments are proof that its not just people already growing food who want to!

Oopsadaisy3 Fri 03-Apr-20 12:09:38

ACs have always grown their own, even when they lived in flats they had pots of herbs on the windowsills.

Even if you live on contaminated land you can buy or make raised beds on legs ( easier to buy than make) and buy soil.

Those who can’t be bothered will always find an excuse not too.

notanan2 Fri 03-Apr-20 12:09:19

Well I bow to your superior knowledge Notanan

Its not "superior knowledge" its just the way it is for people who live near me and don't have gardens/balconies. And with so many flat dwellers having to run dehumidifiers full time, window sill growing is still the preserve of people in better properties.

Those of us who already grow things arent more motivated than those who dont. We just have the means.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 03-Apr-20 12:03:37

All our AC grow veggies etc. with the GC the one in a flat has a communal garden where a bit has been sectioned off for veggies, they also grow herbs in pots on window sills.

We grow tomatoes in hanging baskets and are fortunate to have a large vegetable/salad trug for growing as well as various pots.

It takes a little bit of lateral thinking without a balcony/garden but most people have window sills.

eazybee Fri 03-Apr-20 11:59:28

My daughter sent me pictures today of 'vegetables,' not sure what, she is growing from seed.

Callistemon Fri 03-Apr-20 11:57:07

Ours will deliver.

Plant in a drain pipe and stand near a radiator

curvygran Fri 03-Apr-20 11:55:57

Now the garden centres are closed it’s almost impossible to get multipurpose compost anywhere, so not very encouraging for people to grow vegetables in pots, sadly .

Callistemon Fri 03-Apr-20 11:54:21

Privilege! Naice areas! Need a car! Contamination!

What next- only Tories have gardens? Privilege has its gardens?
ROFL

Please, Jeremy Corbyn, come and give some tips on what to grow in a window box.

Never mind Mick it was a naice nice try and a lovely positive thought

MawB Fri 03-Apr-20 11:41:34

Well I bow to your superior knowledge Notanan
Idnt think of Walthamstow as a “naice” area and the gardens are smaller than most people’s living rooms from what I have seen!
Some areas do have a long waiting list, but some people are clearly lucky.
I do think it would be nice if a perfectly reasonable and cheerful OP wasn’t shouted down by cries of “Impossible! Privilege! Luxury!” though sad

Callistemon Fri 03-Apr-20 11:33:10

I didn't actually say that. I said many have but I should qualify that by saying many I know of.
They may be doing more now, and as Mick suggests, many more may try this year.

Hetty58 Fri 03-Apr-20 11:32:10

MawB, I'm in Redbridge. Have they had their plants and soil tested? We shouldn't grow lettuce in our local soil.

Did you know that asbestos was still being used in cars up to 2004?

notanan2 Fri 03-Apr-20 11:29:48

Our nearest allotment (for my neighbours who dont have gardens) IF you somehow managed to get up the list. Is a drive away. Or bus plus LONG walk.

And being so far away keeps you at the bottom of the list anyway because prioritu is given to people who live in that (already affluent) area.

So you need to:
-Already live in a naice area that has allotments (meaning many allotment owners there have gardens ^as well^)
- Not move for about a decade so that you can stay on the list (how many renters can keep their address static or stay in exact areas?)
- Have a car! The allotments are off a national speed limit road thats not safe to walk down and it isnt served by buses.

Elderflower2 Fri 03-Apr-20 11:24:49

I have a back garden but it is contaminated land and I wouldn't eat a thing grown in it. Oddly, there are allotments all around and a source of water on one, very risky. Not sure the allotment holders are aware, maybe they are and don't care,.

gillybob Fri 03-Apr-20 11:24:10

I’ve had my name down for an allotment for 8 years ! No chance of ever getting one as they change hands for “back handers” if you know what I mean . Instead of handing them back. You need to know someone who wants rid and then be prepared to pay them .

notanan2 Fri 03-Apr-20 11:22:00

Maw as callisemon said, most who can, already do!

Allotments have waiting lists that are YEARS long anyway so clearly there has always been the will just not the means.

No young people were never less inclined to grow things. Before, during or after this.

Its a massive massive luxury/privilidge to have growing space. A privilidge young people are less likely to have than my generation

MawB Fri 03-Apr-20 11:14:19

Oh dear Hetty my DD’s allotment is in Waltham Forest, possibly not far from where you are talking about. ??

MawB Fri 03-Apr-20 11:13:06

Just saying Notanan - of course many young couple have no access to outdoor space and as I said, allotments come at a premium but they are very popular and many people of all ages will enjoy their tiny bit of “digging for victory” (even if it is chillis in the window box!)

Hetty58 Fri 03-Apr-20 11:12:29

Our nearest local allotments were closed many years ago. Why? As we're right on the edge of London, near the M11, a university studied the plants growing there. They were dangerously contaminated with lead and other pollutants. I have a list of what I can grow in the garden - and what I can't!

Callistemon Fri 03-Apr-20 11:09:29

Mick - if, of course, anyone can get seeds!