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I just discovered I like tormenting my neighbour

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vampirequeen Mon 27-Apr-20 11:09:01

Well not really tormenting but.....well I'll explain.

I have a rather odd neighbour. She bought her flat and is now trying to sell it. It's been on the market for a long time (well before lockdown) and no one is interested.

Now it could be explained by the price. For the same or even less money you could buy something bigger, freehold and with off street parking.

But she seems to blame us. She chose to buy a leasehold council flat years before we moved here. We're council tenants and she seems to think that having council tenants next door is putting people off. We're very well behaved....not the DM chavy version. I'm a bit dim when it comes to people being nasty. I tend to either miss it or excuse it. I was a bit surprised when she stopped talking to us just after the council put our new bathroom in but at first I just thought she was busy, not well, distracted by something in her life. But it's become a bit daft now. Recently she shouted at me for putting a pot of tulips near 'her' tree (communal garden). I don't like upsetting people and it is a shared area so I moved the pot. I should add that when we moved there was a weedy, messy area that a previous tenant had, at some point, tried to plant up so I just tidied it up and added a few bits and bobs. Nobody complained because most people like to see a few flowers and anyway it was better than the mess it was. Later she complained/shouted at me because I put the tulips near the birdbath so I put them elsewhere.

I finally cracked the other day and accepted that she was indeed trying to ignore me when she wasn't shouting at me. So I decided to wind her up. I know I shouldn't be I can't stop myself. I decided the best way to wind her up was to pretend that I didn't know I was being ignored. You see she makes it rather obvious by looking away and even crossing the road. So now when I see her I say 'Hi *. Y'all right?'. This puts her in an awkward position. Does she carry on ignoring me now that I've greeted day or does her Englishness force her to be polite and reply? Oh the pain on her face when she says 'Hello' in reply. grin

sylviann Tue 28-Apr-20 12:14:39

I've always told my grandchildren if some one is being nasty or awkward with them they should carry on as if they don't nothing's wrong and be so nice it will worry them

Philippa111 Tue 28-Apr-20 12:13:55

I was once shown an image of the face of a very angry and aggressive looking wolf..snarling teeth etc. It looked really frightening and threatening. I was then shown the whole picture of the wolf. It's paw was caught in a metal trap and it couldn't get away. It was in agonising pain. So we never know what the other person is going through....if their 'paw' is caught in a trap. Often anger, aggression etc is the expression of deeper hurts etc. Really good that you can stay balanced and kind. You sound like such a lovely, kind person. Being genuinely kind in the face of unkindness like Greeneyedgirl says makes one feel better and not bitter.

Lilyflower Tue 28-Apr-20 11:54:36

Being extra polite and friendly to those who behave poorly to us is the only way to go. I read my book as I walk and, blessed with teachers' peripheral vision, do not walk into anything and avoid others by a mile. A lady who lives nearby, when she saw me, said loudly, 'Stupid woman!'

I now greet her warmly.

Of course, she might well be right. I probably am a bit stupid.

Almaz65 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:54:33

I love doing this, it's very satisfying to shame people into being polite!!

cas58 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:39:37

Yes, if you're nice it makes it harder for them to be nasty to you.

Henny2020 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:35:58

I do that!
We have a neighbour who swings between being pleasant and being completely off the scale horrible. The more anti she is being the more I make the effort to say hello and smile - especially if she is with a friend! (Just in case she has told them how awful I am!)
For the time being peace has broken out - its a lot less fun!

Riggie Tue 28-Apr-20 11:29:45

Our neighbour is very nosey. If we have any workmen round she intercepts them within minutes of their arrival to find out what we are having done. If she doesnt like it and she thinks it affects her, then we get a note put through our door.
Our regular handyman is a relative of dh's so we can rely on him to help us out and not give her any relevant information. In fact he is likely to mislead her completely!!

GreenGran78 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:25:55

I have lived in a row of houses facing on to lovely Common Land for over fifty years, as have most of my neighbours. We all get along swimmingly, not in and out of each others’ houses, but all good friends.
One neighbour has recently moved away, and the new people are making no effort to assimilate themselves. On the contrary, they have been making trivial complaints of all kinds. Obviously the Common Land is popular with dog-walkers and they apparently keep phoning the Council and the Police complaining about dogs barking. Although dogs DO bark when they meet each other, or are running around excitedly, it’s not that often, and certainly not worth complaining about.
I always smile, and say hello when I see them, but some neighbours are getting a bit ‘huffy’ about them. It will be sad if they destroy the peaceful harmony that we have lived in for so many years.

vampirequeen Tue 28-Apr-20 11:19:05

I used the word 'tormenting' because I couldn't think of the word I needed to use.

This won't escalate. All I'm doing is saying 'Hello' to her. It can't been deemed to be unpleasant in any way unlike her attempts to ignore us.

I'm not the kind of person who can bear a grudge or ignore someone. The world is a sad enough place without us behaving like that so I greet everyone with a smile and a pleasant word. Even if they don't smile back I've still shared a smile. You never know when you smile and greet someone if you're the only person who'll smile or speak to them all day.

Sheilasue Tue 28-Apr-20 11:15:50

We lived in our council house for 23 years, we bought it in 2000 we had to live in it for 3years and then we could sell it which we did, I know a lot of people are against this, but when we were given the house it was brand new on an estate in 1978, now a lot of young people like us with young children were happy there, then some moved away unfortunately over time it became a scruffy area due to Mrs.T cutting council budget. We then had the chav lot move in, one neighbour selling weed to young teenagers and noisy neighbours. We found a lovely flat as the children had grown up and moved on talking to one of our neighbours yesterday we found out the flats were Council and the people had permission to buy the flats from the council. So we found that quite funny. We have since bought the lease to the flats.

Yangste1007 Tue 28-Apr-20 11:09:30

We used to enjoy 'tormenting' our neighbours too. They were a couple in their late 60s and they were the nosiest, gossipiest pair you could ever come across. They used to do things like stand on the other side of hedges to eavesdrop on conversations or crouch underneath open windows to listen in. Our house formed part of their border so we had some windows that opened onto their side. They would then spread their gossip around the village to anyone who would listen. The woman and I used to go to the same hairdresser but I stopped going when I found out the hairdresser knew stuff about us that I had not told her. They would spread gossip not just about us but anything they could find out about anyone. So, we used to make stuff up and then see how far it went. In the end it all got too irritating and after 11 years of living next door to them, we moved house and I have never been so pleased to see the back of someone in my life.

Marmight Tue 28-Apr-20 11:06:28

Way to go Vampire. Love it! Love her into submission!
My OCD neighbour shares a hedge with another neighbour. He has a piece of string from one end to the other and has been cutting it down by 4’ to that level for 5 weeks. Not a twig or branch is unequal. The young neighbour has finally accepted defeat and chopped down his half to the same level. It looks like a madman has given it a haircut. Just waiting to see how long it'll be until Mr OCD can bear it no longer & goes out with the spirit level & does the job ‘properly’ ?. He wants to do the same with my hedge at the back which is much lower/shorter. I thanked him kindly and refused the offer....
Hrrmph, neighbours!

Boumas Tue 28-Apr-20 11:04:40

Brilliant ...

Quizzer Tue 28-Apr-20 11:01:20

If she was a tenant when she bought her flat she would have got it for much, much less than the market price. Some ex-council property sells well, but that is usually because of the location. Local estate agents will know the market value of her flat and if she tries to sell above that then it simply won't sell. Not your fault!!

Bilboben Tue 28-Apr-20 10:56:52

In my humble view I think no one should take pleasure from “tormenting” another. Two wrongs do not make a right.

275men Tue 28-Apr-20 10:52:47

I’d put lots more pots with tulips in the garden. I’d do everything possible to irritate her. ?

MaggieMay69 Tue 28-Apr-20 10:39:26

Ahh definitely kill with kindness! I have always found what you are doing works so well, I have never been able to give others the satisfaction that they are hurting me!
Even when my first husband left me, the first thing I did was hug him and say 'Oh thank God! I haven't fancied you in years! Now we can both find better people!"
The look on his face was amazing...(Of course I cried for the first few nights when he was gone then brushed myself down lol)
But a smile and a big cheery hello to those who would seek to see you hurt and in pain, its absolutely wonderful.
I'd feel sorry for her, as those who live their lives so miserably truly have a deep rooted problem,so us more cheery souls must spread the love a bit more!
Have a wonderful happy day everyone! xxx

harrysgran Tue 28-Apr-20 10:38:13

Stick a few gnomes out there and a bright windmillgrin

NemosMum Tue 28-Apr-20 10:37:10

Yes, "love bombing" can work, and it puts you back in control. The neighbour might indeed have mental health problems, or she might have a personality disorder. Whatever - being friendly and cheerful can hardly do any harm, as long as you don't go over the top and be sarcastic. Good luck VQ and hold your head up high! grin

Aepgirl Tue 28-Apr-20 10:35:51

I dislike the idea of scoring points against people. Best ignore the whole situation.

Rosina Tue 28-Apr-20 10:32:49

This situation must be so annoying for you - but perhaps you have struck the right approach. Years ago I knew a lady who was a devout Christian; we had a mutual acquaintance who was offhand and quite rude at times. The Christian lady found me seething after one spiteful comment that came out of the blue, and said her method was to 'love them through it'. I translated this as smiling and generally behaving as if the nasty one was a friend. Several of us tried this and it worked so well and eventually she behaved tolerably towards most people. DH, who is a lot more patient than I, always points out the we don't know what is going on in other people's lives to make them behave so badly. I am cynical and think some people will behave badly if allowed to get away wtih it, but I have to conced that this method certainly worked.

Carolpaint Tue 28-Apr-20 10:32:21

When you try to sell a property, something you sign is that you have no issues with neighbours; is she not shooting herself in the foot? Perhaps you are dealing with ‘paranoia’. There is no reasoning with delusions. How horrible for you, well done for being so reasonable. This nastiness over social housing is horrible, much of my nursing patch was social housing, pleasant camaraderie is what I found, had to go to a well stocked Indian shop for special ingredients ( after thirty years) within social housing yesterday and they were just as friendly and welcoming.

FarNorth Tue 28-Apr-20 10:28:56

She may have problems that vq doesn't know about.
Being cheery and friendly won't do any harm to her.

Colverson Tue 28-Apr-20 10:27:50

Poor you ,I live in a mix of owned and council homes and have done for 25 years without much problem.Sadly now I'm selling up cause alot of homes have been bought and turned into student lets which is so sad as the community is getting smaller but bad behaviour is on an increase due to unpleasent student noice and behaviour not because of council tenents which have never caused us a problem

Magi Tue 28-Apr-20 10:25:39

I think we all need to try to be kind at the moment. Maybe she has problems you don't know about.