Lockdown extended

I didn't see the article Gabriella but I am not entirely convinced that people who have had it can't get again. There is a poster (a medic on the front line) who has had it twice. I was also reading yesterday that scientists have found hundreds of mutations to the virus so that may indicate that someone could have one variant recover and then contract a different variant.

We can do nothing about our ethnic group, but those who are overweight can and should be putting in the effort to get down to a normal weight.

The majority of those who died were in the overweight category, and that applied to all ethnic groups.

Black men seem to be the most at risk of dying; closely followed by black women. When this is all over we need to be asking why. There seems to be a suggestion that this might be partially accounted for by the fact that so many work in the service sector and are "public facing." But men in general seem to be at greater risk.

More black, overweight and people with underlying health conditions died than any other demographic.

The people who are ok now and in the next few years are the wealthy and the retired.
If you're both wealthy and retired, you're laughing.
The rest need to be able to get on their feet again.

There is some validity in the points you raise jainainsworth but EllenVannin's question has validity too. Btw, purely on a simple matter of correctitude GagaJo wrote almighty not filthy lucre.

Espousing utilitarian principles is all very well and good and it can be argued that out of a population of 66 million the loss of 250,000 people is "for the greater good", however this misses out more than mere statistics.

Who decides which lives are expendable?
Who are the expendable?
Who actually is expended?

If Boris Johnson had died was it because he was expendable?

This does not begin to cover some of the issues a utilitarian approach in this matter raises.

I'm still waiting to see when Scotland rids itself of Westminster.
We had all this Scotland v England and the UK nonsense way back at the start of Brexit.
I wish they'd just go or shut up the sooner the better.

It’s not whether we should or shouldn’t. People just won’t do it. Our area has been getting busier over the last few weeks. People are worried about money and their jobs. I can’t see it working if it’s extended.

I’m pretty sure that the will be a lessening of some restrictions , but it has been made clear that it is going to be a slow steady process.

We are already predicted to be heading for a disastrous recession, so it’s obvious that the economy is the number one priority now.

The minority of people in the very vulnerable category can still be protected whilst the rest of the country gets back to work.

Reading an article today (no, not in the DM) it is said that once you have had the virus you cannot get it again and anyone coughing ? (that emoji appeared all by itself) after being cleared is simply expelling dead cells from their lungs (which are not able to be passed on)
That's a scientific fact, so said the author.

UnfortunatelyI don’t think those who are shielded will be ‘eased’ for some time.

In reality, the numbers are tiny.

According to government figures I am ok ? because more black individuals contract the virus than white (UK figures)
The ratio is purported to be 5-1.

My money is on an agreement being reached on Sunday which will allow certain premises to open subject to conditions and people allowed to mingle, go for picnics etc in family groups and exercise more - always keeping 2 metres apart.
More public transport but with reduced numbers carried.
He is metaphorically dipping his toe in the water to see how it pans out. Baby steps.

I have believed from the start that there needs to be some regional differences based on scientific and clinical evidence.

Get the economy back on the move regardless, how fast did the virus suddenly sweep through the U.K.? The 2 wave will be even more of a disaster even frontline staff are saying so and once our health service is over whelmed with covid 19 we will all be in peril. It will not really matter who is rich who is poor we will all be up the Swanee together.

I heard on the radio at lunch time that the R number (the number of people each COVID patient infects) is higher in Scotland than the rest of the U.K. so it makes sense for them to continue with a stricter lockdown.
Gagajo it’s easy to make the jibe that ‘filthy lucre’ comes first. But we are headed for not just a recession but a great depression. Many more people will suffer from that than have already suffered from the virus itself.
Of course no-one wants to risk a second wave which would probably be more disastrous than the first.
But people’s economic & financial well-being as well as their mental and physical well-being has to be considered.
If there is a depression it’s not the rich who will suffer, it’s the people who are already deprived & poor. I don’t envy those who have to take the decision whether to reduce or maintain lockdown.

Scotland could just be right. Yes all these journalists are baying for Boris to ease the lockdown in the name of economy. Printing all sorts of propaganda to relax the country. What will Boris and these tabloids have to say when
Wave 2 and possibly Wave 3 sweeps through the U.K.? Like Boris is saying about the care homes "Oh I have much regret for what has happened" it's a bit late now.

Never mind about the shrinking economy, what about the shrinking population ? What matters most ?

We have had a stricter lockdown in Wales. Not that all have adhered to it. I think/hope that we won't be rushing out of lockdown too soon even if England do.

I hope you do get an extended lockdown.

I read scientific modelling the uk possible deaths today. 250,000. Could be prevented but won't be because England's out of lockdown. Almightly lucre comes first.

I live in Wales and our government may have a different approach. Will we go with Scotland or England?
Our First Minister doesn't want people travelling into Wales just yet.

I have been impressed by Nicola but I wish we could have been allowd to take the car to the place where we would take our exercise as in England as we are so fed up of our own neighborhood. Just a few miles out would be lovely.

Lockdown extension is good, to me.

I admire Nicola Sturgeon.
I hope the lockdown is eased in a wY to fire up the economy again with minimal risk.