Terrible terrorist attacks in Reading

No one is using the phrase "poor asylum seeker" so far as I can see.
"His mother said he lived a privileged life with private education inn Tripoli"
Whether his life can be described as privileged I've no idea. If it was, it doesn't in any way diminish the serious mental health problems this young man had.
Saying that, doesn't mean I condone his actions, or diminish the fact he murdered innocent people, leaving their loved ones to somehow manage to continue to live their lives as best they can.
Why do some people find it impossible to look at any situation from only one point of view.

Which has been a war zone since 2011 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2011)
So perhaps his private education was interrupted a bit.

Poor asylum seeker my eye, reading the news this morning his mother said he lived a privileged life with private education in Tripoli.

Ellan anyone who thinks our invasion of Iraq is connected in any way with keeping our country safe is sadly deluded, it is in fact one of the reasons terrorists feel justified in attacking us.

I cant speak for anyone else Ellan but I think the lives of people in Iraq and the lives of.people in the UK have the same value.

I don't actually think this was terrorist related, he was a young man with a traumatic history who had smoked cannabis and become psychotic, and the two are definitely linked. He would have had voices in his head screaming at him to stab people. Nothing to do with hatred of this country.

There is no way we can imprison or deport everyone who ever voiced a potentially dangerous thought. Many of them are born in Britain and are white, indeed one of the most wanted is a white, British woman from Aylesbury.
Let us instead, hold on to our humanity and remember the families of those killed and injured. Anything less diminishes us as humans and can only lead to hatred and violence.

I have a GS who served in Afghanistan and Iraq, so whose life was more precious then Trisha, my GS or those he was fighting to keep our country safe ?

I do believe that any asylum seeker/immigrant who breaks the law should be deported. Australia has recently returned a man to UK who hasn't lived here since he was a child. He was convicted of murder, served his sentence and was deported within 2 weeks of his release. No appeals - he broke the law so he is out of Australia.

As someone has said UK is not the world's social worker. I welcome any who want to make UK their home but they have to respect our laws.

lemon grove, thanks for a post that reflects reality.
The reason this man could apply for asylum here links to our invasion of Lybia. Gaddafi was a tyrant but as he evidently informed Tony Blair, he was the tyrant who could maintain a level of stability in his country.

He had a diagnosis following a recent psychiatric evaluation of emotionally unstable personality disorder, as well as pyschotic episodes, post traumatic stress disorder and possible schizophrenia. He appears to have also misused alcohol and smoked a lot of cannabis.

He was mentally ill. I agree with trisher that our mental health services, as well as police/probation/social work/ etc have been decimated and are no longer functioning effectively. Even if they were, as lemon grove says, it will not always be possible to prevent this kind of awful murderous attack. Stating this, rather than raging about immigrants or asylum seekers doesn't mean I'm "taking their side" as some posters suggest.

all of the dead were much loved not just 'one of the dead'

Thank you lemongrove. He sounded like a fun sort of guy.

Agee.
No one can stop someone flipping one day & killing random strangers.
It’s like when a child dies at the hands of his parents or careers, ‘lessons will be learnt’ - I’m sure they are, but it still tragically happens no matter how many social workers or other agencies are involved.

With the best will in the world ( and a superb mental health
Programme) that still won’t stop certain people from grabbing a knife one day, going out and killing and attempting to kill complete strangers.Nor can they be monitored 24/7. No matter who talks about ‘lessons being learned’ you just can’t stop this sort of thing from happening.

Greenfinch it’s very sad for your DGD and her school that their teacher was murdered in this way.

So because some Liibyans have been violent and killed in this country all Libyans deserve to be killed? Should the same rule apply to Britain considering all the people we killed in Iraq and Afghanistan?
People who consider some lives are more precious than others make me sick.

People whose sympathies go to perpetrators make me sick !

Tell that to those who lost loved ones Trisher !!

It was a Libyan who massacred all those in Manchester in 2017.

Libya has been in a state of war since 2011 so legally a refugee cannot be returned there. I simply think all human life is precious be it British, American or Libyan. I never thought this was liberal simply humanitarian.

It’s a truly horrible situation when migrants who have been offered the chance of a better life here, decide to kill us.

This has happened time and time again and will continue to happen until we get tough.

This last one is just the latest in a long line over the years.

But hey, he had mental health problems so it was all our fault really wasn’t it, for not caring for him properly.

Unbelievably as we have seen, some on here really believe that.

trisher

Yes of course he might have killed a few people in Libya of course but who cares about them!!

Well it isn’t the responsibility of the UK to be the world’s social worker. The UK gave him asylum which he asked for. I for one would rather he’d stayed in Libya. We have enough home grown offenders so we don’t need to import more. I’m afraid my sympathy is for those whose lives he took.

*there should have read their

trisher

Yes of course he might have killed a few people in Libya of course but who cares about them!!

So according to you we should keep all the failed asylum seekers here, let tax payers pay for there court cases, house them and accept it when they murder people in our country.......how liberal thinking you are.

Yes of course he might have killed a few people in Libya of course but who cares about them!!

If he had been deported after his first crime, three men would still be alive, one a much admired teacher, one an acclaimed scientist, mother’s, families and friends grieving.

Vetted ? Isn't that against Human Rights grannypiper ?