How do you feel about Cardi B's new song WAP?

Haven't watched the video but it seems the lyrics appear to be written for shock value. Are these the same women who would join a demonstration to complain men treat them as sex objects, doesn't this encourage that?

I remember seeing a joke which said that young people today are angry because their music is c**p - now I think perhaps it wasn't a joke!

Not sure what would be described as far worse , yes maybe out of the mouths of men. I wasn't too impressed when one of my adolescent sons liked the Prodigy song "smack my bitch up" and being the age he was, not appreciating fully the toxic message that was giving out. I'm kind of agreeing with Msbond, the WAP song does do a disservice to women and girls by defining them in a one dimensional way, and so often how they are presented in rap videos per se. Of course before making a judgement it's necessary to listen to the song and see the video, which incidentally starts with the line "whores in the house" is this how women wish to define themselves? set between the narrowest of male fantasy defined parameters, I think not, well certainly if the comments over on MN were anything to go by and they would be more the target audience than 50 plus year old grannies.

It would be interesting to know what a black woman with more gravitas than Cardi B, say Michelle Obama, would make of it. Personally I don't think the song and video are about female empowerment, if anything it's all pretty retrograde stuff that's been dished up umpteen times before.

Weird that this came up today, DD told me when she dropped DGS and Dog downstairs this morning that she had asked her boss to change the radio channel.
She hated listening to most of the songs as she found them offensive.
She is 35 and a former Goth, but she could not stand it all day.
The rest of the staff do not have English as a main language so a lot of it went over their heads.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest - music was always meant to shock! Heard far worse when I was in my teens and going to punk gigs. I might be in my 50s and a granny now but I still love listening to that kind of thing.

I dont like it at all and im not a prude as ive worked in the "adult industry"for a while not that many years ago. It does a diservice to women and girls everywhere masquereding as female impowerment !!!

My original reply was deleted - someone probably reported it - as it mentions the N word, although that word was in the "song" by CardiB. HER words, not mine. Madness.

@Terribull, I’ve known black people in the Caribbean to use the N word when talking about another black local.
The first time I heard it, the speaker (who we knew quite well) added (laughing) ‘But don’t you use that word!’

As I said to him, as if!

It's interesting because this topic ran into 19 pages when I clicked on to it on MN. To be be expected considering their age demographic, they were far more au fait with this genre of music. Nevertheless I concluded the general consensus was they weren't too keen on the content either.

I remember having a discussion with one of my sons a while back on why black people choose to use the pejorative "n" word, I think he said it was something to do with them taking owner ship of the word. I still hate it, because it kind of assaults the consciousness a bit like the "c" word does, is that any better coming out of the mouths of women?, I personally don't think so. With that in mind, I believe the idea behind the video and song is for women to take ownership of how they are often portrayed as whores and described as such in male rap videos and to celebrate their sexuality. Having watched it I can't see a lot of difference, they still describe themselves as whores and there seems to be a porno element there, as always to appeal to the basest fantasies of men, which begs the question, why pander to those Possibly a pastiche, but personally hate all the overt fakery, are these images of women that will inspire young girls, and to what?? We live in times that seem to push impressionable young women to aspire to an ideal that is very false, and this video personifies that imo. As always with certain genres the language used is also not perhaps the words one would choose to use in front of the vicar!

Well, Mary I've just Google this - it's not exactly Mantovani, is it? I don't need to listen to it. How times have changed - and not for the better. I don't expect it'll be played by the 'the last grown-up on Radio 2' my favourite Ken Bruce.

My dad used to complain that the music of the 1960s such as the Beatles and the Rolling Stones 'had no romance' but it was tame compared to todays offerings. Not explicit.

His favourite was 'Some Enchanted Evening' - lovely, wasn't it? I like it too but this 'music' is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I think Ellie Greenwich is more my kind of writer.

I’d heard the name and saw that she’d just won a prestigious American award for Best Songwriter for the second year running. One previously awarded to Alicia Keys and Mary J Blige.

So I googled the lyrics of this song out of interest.

Sadly there isn’t a delete history function for the human eye.

Kircubbin
It's nothing to do with cardigans. It's from the word Bacardi ( as in the rum)

Lol whose cardi B

Absolutely awful,even I was a bit put out.
Russell Brands view wasnt wrong either .

Is wap not another of the banned words?Double standards all right.And why name yourself after a cardigan?

Exactly PinkCakes.
DOUBLE STANDARDS spring to mind.

This is one depraved society----crime. drugs. rapes. disrespect.
Is it any wonder when you have this. It's grim indeed.

Don't know the singer nor the song, don't want to know either.

I'm glad my parents aren't around to see what this world is reduced to.

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Afraid I ve not heard of the lady or her song

Who’s Cardi B?