Tell you what....let’s out all these GN medicos.....is there a doctor in the house??Because somebody needs some attention.
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I am a stay-at-home gran, married to a retired GP. We're in our late 60s and early 70s respectively. My DH belongs to a website for doctors. I won't name them but I am told they are well-known and the largest discussion forum for doctors in the UK, with over 200,000 members, all GMC-registered doctors. He has been a member since this website was first launched in the late 90s. He used to contribute regularly but stopped not very long ago. When I asked why, he said the site was full of narcissistic bullies and really rude people and a person cannot say anything at all without getting jumped on and abused. I was surprised as I'd never read the forums until now and have always had an extremely high opinion of doctors. My own GP, a lovely guy from the Indian subcontinent, is the kindest and gentlest person you could hope to meet. And I have had good experiences with most doctors, although of course I tend to meet most of them socially, when I suppose they'd be on their best behaviour.
But after DH said this, I asked if I could read while he was logged on. He allowed me to read several threads, warning me that they were not pretty. Unfortunately he was right. I was extremely shocked at how these doctors talk to one another - without any respect or courtesy. After seeing how rude and obnoxious so many of them are (including the women), I am not at all surprised that he's stopped posting or even reading the site. He misses talking to other people though and has joined Gransnet instead! People are so much nicer here, and he says it is because they are mostly non-medical. He says many of his friends and colleagues, including the younger ones, have left the doctors forum for good, because of this nastiness from their peers.
But it's got me wondering. Are all doctors this rude to each other, or is it just a British thing? Most of the unpleasant people I saw on this website tended to be White British. The foreigners seem for the most part polite and even diffident. Hubby and I are WASPS ourselves, so it was rather shocking to see fellow-WASPS behave so badly. Does working in a stressful profession like medicine do this to you, or is it just that British doctors are more vicious online than doctors from other nationalities? In comparison to this doctors website, people on most other forums including Gransnet are sooo polite and courteous, even when people post silly things. I rather like that and understand why hubby wishes to move here. DH says many of the nicer doctors have taken to hanging out on Gransnet and recommend it highly. Doesn't say much for the medical profession though, does it, if they have driven away their own colleagues by being thoroughly disagreeable.
Tell you what....let’s out all these GN medicos.....is there a doctor in the house??Because somebody needs some attention.
SueDonim
Something I was told was "always be nice to the cleaners".
And they don't hold back if they think you need a telling off
In the main, they were all stars.
a stay-at-home gran in my late sixties. One of the lucky ones, then, retired in your late sixties.
We don't tend to use the acronym WASP in the UK - are you American, OP?
SueDonim
Firstly congratulations to your daughter on qualifying a medic. The training our young doctors receive is robust and high quality. The emphasis right from the beginning is on the patient and patient care. When my daughter qualified and was working as an F1 and F2, she lived in hospital accommodation with many other newly qualified medics. They were all absolutely lovely and were dedicated to caring for patients.
I don’t know quite what to make of the original post to be honest.
twitter.com/doctorshaib?lang=en
this is a good doctor to follow i think, he is an expert in infectious diseases, and a jolly good fellow.
dr bharat pankhania
There's one medic in the family that's been in the field for about 20 years- They've indicated it is no way the same as when they started aside from the friendships they've formed- Corporate politics and profits have changed nearly everything about healthcare-
Throughout the worse part of the pandemic they soldiered through- The appreciation they received came from the communities they treated- Not their superiors or hospital administrations preoccupied with politics, profits, checks and balances -
The interior of an ambulance is small .. and many medics became sick- One of their co-workers, only in his 30's, became sick and died very quickly-
I had a wonderful doctor who stopped practicing medicine all together due to corporate control and politics dictating how she had to practice medicine- She didn't put herself through college to spend the majority of a patient's appointment time on a laptop-
More patients seen equals more money and it was mandatory she meet that daily quota to remain employed-
Medicine has become messy ..
I’m not sure why there would be a ‘website for doctors’, really. Surely if doctors wanted to talk to one another, as opposed to other people, it would be about medicine, so they would have separate ones for the various specialisms?
As for doctors joining Gransnet, whatever would be the point? Fair enough to join as an individual - we have people from all sorts of professions on here - but for there to be an exodus from a medical forum to here sounds very unlikely.
If there is a n influx of doctors in the house, maybe one of you could pop over to the insomnia thread? I’m still awake, and I think others could use your advice too.
He misses talking to other people though and has joined Gransnet instead! People are so much nicer here, and he says it is because they are mostly non-medical
So, if you are new, DrArtemisDH , welcome!

Congratulations to your daughter SueDonim. I have to say that most doctors I have met recently are nice, happy to discuss things and would rather people told them their concerns than kept it to themselves. DGS2 paediatric consultant chatted about nappy brands to us. He was a new father.
As a retired Dr who qualified over 50years ago, I hope I was never rude or arrogant.
Now wondering which of our newer members is the retired Dr in question? Surely not any we have seen recently? ? ✈️ ....
Gransnet has become decidedly confusing
rosecarmel
I know you live in America, and your medical system is very different to that in the UK, but the situation world wide re Coronavirus has been much the same for all of our doctors. The stress they have been under, whatever their speciality, has been enormous and many of them are on their knees now due to the pressure, much longer hours they’ve worked, working with Covid19 patients (not necessarily on ITU but at home or in care homes) and worries about their families. And they’ve stepped up to the mark. Many have died. We all owe them our thanks for keeping going despite the pressure, whilst many of us were able to take refuge inside our homes.
Bellanonna 
DH qualified in 1967 and is possibly the nicest kindest person I’ve ever come across or so his patients said and still say. (I may be a tad biased. )And all the juniors he trained still seem to care for him. I’ve only met one surgeon of all the many Hundreds I’ve met over the years who could be called arrogant and in later years getting to know him I’ve understood why Although not forgiving her. . The arrogance of the administrative staff is a different kettle of fish. DH said it was drummed into them at medical school on a daily basis that it was an honour and a privilege to serve the sick. Administration are fuelled by accountancy not patient care.
Perhaps we should all ? and say
"I am Dr Spartacus"
I am inclined to agree with MawB2. I do not wish to fuel the fire- it can lead a natural death so I am retiring albeit temporarily. Waitrose is calling.
I am a doctor but not a medical one. I am very arrogant and rude though.
I can vouch for that.
She's really horrible
(joke!!!)
Jane10 not that I have ever noticed.
Charleygirl I must try harder!
Jane10 ???
Thank you, Maddyone & Elaine. 
I maybe should mention that my two sons are also doctors, but they wouldn’t be much use if you were ill, although they could help out if you an academia-related emergency. 
Thankfully, we haven’t needed to have much to do with the medical fraternity in a professional manner but I have to say, it’s been decades since I have come across an unpleasant doctor or nurse.
For goodness sake are you lot still on at this thread. Don't you have anything better to do? I'm far too busy and important to have anything to do with you.
(Rude and arrogant enough? I have more...) 
What a cheek!
We haven't posted for hours, far too busy (and important) to spend all day on here!
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