Second lockdown

I am not at all surprised by the second wave and maybe another lockdown, I don't think I have really come out of the first. I am not really bothered about Christmas this year, I expect I will have to spend the day driving to my daughters with a cooked Christmas dinner, spend a bit of time with her, then drive home. Mr B has said don't worry about him he will go out cycling for the day. So that will be our Christmas. Its just one day, but I feel so sad for anyone in daughters position relying on carers for the day.

Motherduck?Your post has brought tears to my eyes.Sending love,thoughts and prayers for you,your daughter and your family.

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I am not that surprised really.
As yet, my area is not one of the ones that are in lockdown, although have been on the watch list a couple of times.
I think we came out of the initial lockdown too soon and it has got to the point where people either don't believe in the whole thing anyway so don't follow instruction at (the usual won't happen to me attitude) or just can seem to see no point as nothing has changed!
I have long believed that for months there have been people innocently walking around with Covid in their system, maybe in total ignorance because the symptoms are so similar to so many other illnesses, so spreading the virus and have often wondered why, if the scientists were aware that it was airborne, why the face coverings ruling was not brought in right at the beginning so that we could have avoided so much.

Maybe we should try to be thankful that we had a bit of a reprieve unlike those living through a war. I suspect this life of ebbs and flows of lockdowns and 'semi-lockdowns' is what our lives consist of now - at least until there is a vaccine. I am trying to remain thankful that family and friends are 'doing ok' even though I cannot see them

I do not stress over things I can't change or have any control over. It just makes things worse if you stress. Keep calm and carry on. That is all we can do. I have always thought a year to 18 months was the time this was going to go on for.

Life is too short to miss out on grandchildren. Surely there is a way you can see them? My granddaughter was born 3 months early so was in hospital for the first 3 months of her life. We couldn’t see her then, nor my daughter as she was with her, so sure as eggs are eggs I am not missing seeing her anymore. We missed 3 months of this year with all the ridiculous measures. If only Boris would listen to other scientists!

My heart goes out to you Motherduck??xxx

Motherduck i just scrolled up. I am so sorry to read your situation.
My daughter had breast cancer, chemo and radio and masectomy. Then i got breast cancer. Then my father died and mum already passed so that was enough for me. There by the grace of God we are cancer free.
I will be praying for you and your daughter x

Motherduck my heart goes out to you and your daughter, how awful for you. Certainly puts things in perspective for me, I have much to be thankful for and if we have to isolate, spend Christmas alone or whatever then we must to keep those who are most vulnerable safe.

It's very hard, I know, but we've got to try to remain as positive as possible. Things will get better, it's just that the tunnel seems rather long and dark at the moment, especially with these set backs. We have to hold onto the fact that things were much grimmer back in March. Whatever the weather, if at all possible (not possible for everyone, I know), we need to wrap up warm and venture outside, even if only to the end of the garden/ street. Every season has its beauty and it might help to hold onto that fact and look out for the things that bring pleasure.i
Motherduck I am so sorry to read of your daughter. What a terrible situation for all of you. It does put things into perspective and I send you my very best wishes. Your plight makes worries about Christmas & visits seem insignificant by comparison.

12Michael mentions about sports. I am totally confused as to why sports centre can keep operating when the rules clearly states that it is limited to the rule of 6, yet they have masses of over 18s indoors in both the gyms, swimming pool and exercise classes. Yet as far as I read it is only under 18s and disabled people who are exempt. Also private sports groups like Pilates and so on are operating in classes of 15 thinking they are covered by the Support Group rule, but I understand this is not so?. Can anyone clarify all this as even the EDDC here in Devon do not understand the rules!!! Which support groups can meet in groups of 15? and what sport can carry on as normal, apart from the professional sport who of course can because they are all in a bubble.?

Its tricky isnt it . as a little confusing. Christnas i have just completed my gift buying for the grand children and family & friends etc. Purely for cost effectice reasons mixed in with if we are in lock down, at least the presents will already be with those its intended for and if i cant be present , so be it.
We are lucky this way as generally people listen and we have been middle with it all the way through. I wash hands more and avoid crowds and avoid mixing household's too much as in never more than 6 of us together. I do wash clothes if been very public when i come in. My husvand similar though not quite so as me.
I find the rules confusing as they keep changing but pretty much stick to what i do. I used to have the grandchildren regular overnight and do not now as they go to school and mix a lot and i just think if we stick to it and pull together itll be back to a normal sooner x

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Motherduck So very sorry it must be heartbreaking for you. This certainly will stop me from moaning about ‘my lot’ and appreciate what we have not what we have not. Virtual love hugs and to you and your family xx

Dear Jane10. What a sensible approach you are taking. There is nothing much else we can do except just go with the flow and make the best of it.
I am almost shielding at present as I am having my pacemaker generator changed in about 6 weeks time and choose to protect myself. I am only going out with DH for exercise.
Cats are certainly good company.
My best wishes to all who are finding it difficult at the moment. It hopefully will not be for ever.

I'm finding this one more daunting. Summer we had lovely weather, gardens, etc. The hour walk we were allowed I really enjoyed. Cold and long dark days ahead with just my dog for company isn't looking good, I know it's going to be very lonely.

Motherduck. I’m so very sorry to hear about your daughter you must be heartbroken. I totally agree about the university students some of them acting totally irresponsibly. The very best of love and luck to your family.

Motherduck
Your post brought tears to my eyes. My heart goes out to you. The inconveniences of a potential lockdown pale into insignificance next to your situation. So very sorry to hear of your sad circumstances.

I’m in Swansea. Most of Wales is in this new lockdown. We just have to get on with it I’m afraid. I did go for a pedicure this week - just me and the beauty therapist in the salon gloved and masked. Husband and I went for a meal last night - all precautions in place.
We have to learn to live with the situation as best we can.
Christmas will be Christmas. I’ll decorate the tree and the house and buy presents.

Lexigranny, surely if you were shielding before, you're still shielding? My husband received the letter about vulnerability and shielding, first time round, because he's on immunosuppressants. He's still on them, so surely he must still be shielding. Has something changed in your case, like coming off medication? In fact most of us over-70s are vulnerable because of age, and THAT'S not going to change.

I find it depressing because it didn’t work last time, in that it only reduced the numbers and spread temporarily. Almost as soon as people started mixing more normally it started up again. The damage lockdown wreaked in other ways to jobs, business, education and the health of those with non-covid illness, was and is dreadful.

I don’t know what the answer is, without destroying everything else in society, and I suspect nor do the experts.

I'm at a loss to understand anyone's shock and surprise to learn that Covid-19 numbers are on the rise.

It's a VIRUS! Viruses don't disappear! We are vaccinated..... the same as many of us do for influenza.
However, 'flu and pneumonia fatalities are never eradicated.

There are many efforts being made in all countries to complete trials on a new Covid vaccine so perhaps by next Spring.

But surely you all know this.
From some posts I find it frustrating that there is so much dismay. Be sensible and you'll be fine.

Well Harrogate seems to have more cases than previously, so It will be just a matter of time before we are affected again. I have enjoyed seeing my grandchildren, so I am luckier than those who haven't managed to see their grandchildren. I shall just have to grin and bear it when it comes, 'cause I can't afford not to.

My 27 year old daughter has Covid.. she has terminal cancer also. Hence she caught Covid as she had low immunity. Her Oncologist told her that she could have caught it off anyone, anyone at all regardless of whether they display symptoms,
They can appear perfectly healthy and yet they can also be a carrier.
She has spent a total of 9 intermittent days at home since early July,
And having had her baby delivered early so she could start treatment,
Followed by a hip replacement (bone cancer) she only started chemo 3 weeks ago, and it really is all she has. She’s now had to stop the chemo due to the Covid.
Everyone has a different take of how Covid affects them personally and they’re valid, of course they are.
But I do feel that university students and the Christmas dilemma pales into insignificance. I’d give my life to take her place and to be able to have one last Christmas with her first.