Why don’t Brits like Trump

Very good post Spaghetti.

Nonetheless, I truly would like to know why so many Americans voted for him.

I hope that posters like pageturner report back to their Trump supporting friends just how low Trump has dragged the international standing of America.

Pageturner's rant alarms me in the sense that 70 ish million Americans just don't get it and voted for him again. The President of the USA is the leader of the free world, hence the person in that office affects us all. I remember when he was elected in 2016 thinking God help America and, look at it now. He has devided the country and possibly done long term harm to America's standing in the World. Remember his idea to inject people with bleach to combat covid and his scientific officer squirming in her seat. He is/was a complete moron.

maddyone the answer is that there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Antisemitism was very general in society in Germany and, especially Austria from at least the mid-19th century onwards. On the whole the German people were quite happy to see the Jews disposessed and moved away - and even more so in Austria, they just closed their eyes and minds as to what was happening to them once they left.

We also have to remember that Germany under Hitler was a totalitarian dictatorship. It wasn't just the Jews who were taken away, disabled children and adults, gay men, ministers of religion, political activists who disagreed with Hitler, Uncle Tom Cobbley and all could find themselves arrested in the night and sent to concentration camps. If you wanted to live yourself, you kept quiet and shut your eyes.

Elegran At 8:25 you attributed a statement to me that I most certainly did not make. No doubt a mistake but I wouldn't want anyone to believe it.

Monica
Thank you for your response. Of course this thread isn’t really about Hitler but I felt compelled to respond to a post which stated that many Germans knew nothing of the camps. I am fully aware of the facts as you have outlined them in your post, as I have read widely around this particular subject, and indeed have visited many of the historic sites in Germany and Eastern Europe, as well as visiting some outstanding museums devoted to this subject. The Museum of the History of Polish Jews in Warsaw is excellent, but so are many others. I know that facist Germany did not tolerate dissenters and when discovered such people were usually executed. Claus von Stauffenberg is probably the most well known dissenter and of course was executed for his efforts.
The main point is that it is obvious that the German people were aware of what was happening to the Jews and indeed to other persecuted groups, but they chose to close their eyes to what was happening, both because it was safer, but also because the benefits for some were enormous. I think it unlikely that many German civilians knew about the gas chambers, but they certainly knew about the camps because many were situated in Germany, but of course mass killings such the gas chambers were not situated on German soil deliberately. However it has been documented that the Eastern Europeans knew both about gas chambers and about the mass shootings because these events were taking place almost in front of them.

We didn’t know is not an acceptable defence today. They did know!

Sorry to derail the thread, perhaps better get back to why the British don’t like Trump.

Pageturner, I've lived in the US twice. Husband was American, daughter is half American and holds a US passport.

Trump is a neo fascist. Every American I know thinks this, other than one lady.

Please feel free to comment on British leaders. Many of us dislike them as much as we dislike Trump. They are little better.

Sorry, Esspee, I was attributing to the Original Post without turning back to check whether my quote really was in it - should have looked back. You are quite right not want to be misquoted.

I do wish the original posts were still shown at the head of each page. Much easier to glance back at them. Techy does a lot of small pointless changes like this, instead of the things that we would like altered.

I fail to see any good qualities in Trump at all. I fail to see how so many Americans like him. He is a truly appalling man. His behaviour now is like a spoilt child. He is a terrible loser.

Trump is now an irrelevance

I feel that he personifies the things we don't like about our perception of Americans in general. He's loud and full of bluster - all talk but nothing concrete behind it. Just image but no facts.
Not all Americans are the same though - I've worked with a few who were thoughtful and considered in their approach. I imagine they find him an international embarrassment too.

We also don’t like a bad loser!

Crickey, what will you lot have to moan about once Trump is a distant memory and Brexit is done and dusted?

I’m sure you’ll find something......

Basically Trump resembled an overgrown spoilt toddler prone to tantrums and cannot be reasoned with

Kandinsky - I think Brexit is the gift that will keep on giving for a l.o.n.g time yet!

Whitewavemark2

Trump is now an irrelevance

Unfortunately he isn't an irrelevance. He will be around preparing his daughter for the next election in 4 years time.
Given the number of votes he gained in this election his support is not going to disappear during the next 4 years.

'Why don't Brits like Trump?' He's obnoxious, embarrassing, clown-like, ignorant, incompetent etc. - need I go on?

In fact, I really cringe whenever that face appears on my TV, but, yippee, not for too much longer now!

Exactly Dinahmo

Donald Trump won more than 70 million votes, the second highest total in American history

From a BBC news report.

Trump may never be president again ( my personal view is he’s too old. & so is Biden )
But what he stands for millions of Americans love.

Donald Trump won more than 70 million votes, the second highest total in American history

So what?

Biden has at least 5 million more than that. Which, I presume, makes him the person with the highest total?

One reason I think we Brits don't like Trump is because he fades in comparison with Obama. I watched the eulogy he gave at the funeral of Shimon Peres. It was literate and dignified, spoken from the heart (I think) and without notes. I remembered this when Trump was elected POTUS a few months later.

Trump started his presidency as he meant to go on - lying about the numbers of people who turned out to greet him (between 300,000 and 600,000) which he stated was the largest number ever. Compared with 1.8 million (estimated) for Obama.

Trump may have attempted to start a political dynasty, but his sons haven't got a chance, even with the name. If they weren't his sons, they would be sweeping floors in a Walmart somewhere. His daughters are far smarter, Tiffany especially as she has distanced herself from her Father's politics. Ivanka is smart, but is likely to be embroiled in her Father's and her husband's court cases for years as their world of bullying, corruption and lies comes tumbling around their ears. When I see and hear this dreadful family, I remember what an old work colleague ( an American) said to me about another 'He needs to take care just who he craps on the way up because they will be waiting for him on the way down'. I would think that many people are rapidly distancing themselves from the noxious Trump family and many others are getting ready to sort their grievances in court.

I know why the British, including me, don’t like Trump. What I’d like to know is why so many Americans do like Trump. I find it baffling.

Kandinsky

Crickey, what will you lot have to moan about once Trump is a distant memory and Brexit is done and dusted?

I’m sure you’ll find something......

Ohhhhhh, lets see...

Boris
Cummings
Rees Mogg

All equally incompetent and corrupt..

At least they've been able to get shot of Trump. It will be some time before we get a chance to sack our right-wing populist shower, and even then we cannot repair the damage of brexit.