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Sending a Hug to the Keyboard Warriors

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Notinthemanual Sat 14-Nov-20 08:20:26

That was quite a week for unpleasantness. I’ve wondered why some Grans are that way. Do they feel unheard IRL and vent their frustration here?

I saw an anecdote elsewhere recently… A mother had told her young son off for being cruel to his school friends. The child replied “They are dumb, and they need to know that.” I’ve known some really smart, self-reliant, resilient, well-dressed adults who never needed to make sure everyone knew that are others were less so. They had healthy self-esteem, compassion and were wise enough to know that not everyone’s reality is the same.

There are ways to disagree without being disagreeable. There is a preview box. And of course, the guideline to not say something that you wouldn’t say face to face. Perhaps those Grans are as forthright with people they barely know IRL. Perhaps that is why they are here.

I don’t take the good advice to just skip past their posts – I think I have some fascination with the horrible. But I have come to a new conclusion. IMO those Grans need a hug. I’m sending love and smiling; imagining them indignantly trying to bat it away with a fly swatter; my good wishes drifting through the mesh and settling on them.

It also occurred to me that they might just need to up their fluid and vegetable intake.

Thankfully, those Grans are a tiny minority. The rest of you lovely people brighten my day with your kindness, wisdom and good humour.

Maggiemaybe Sat 14-Nov-20 14:06:30

Galaxy

I think be kind is one of the worst pieces of advice ever to take hold. Everyone has a different idea of be kind.

This. ^

And surely I’m not the only one thinking that GN is a much less “unkind” place than it once was, when some proper sharks roamed the waters and even robust members entered the Politics threads at their own risk? They’re all gone as far as I know (and I’m not naming names for that very reason).

What we really don’t need is everyone piling in when somebody is upset by a minor criticism, without even reading the offending comment, which is what happens so often now. If somebody’s really out of order, confront them directly or report and let GN deal with it. But let’s not call someone vile, cruel or a bully (all terms used on here) without very good reason.

Please God don’t anyone offer me a hug. grin

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Nov-20 13:54:52

I also think that because we cannot see posters facial expressions or here the tone of their voices it is extremely easy to misinterpret the feeling of some posts.

Galaxy Sat 14-Nov-20 13:44:47

And what I would say is there are posters who I disagree with completely on a number of issues and we have had some fairly 'to the point' debates but I dont think any less of those posters, I admire them putting forward their beliefs even if it on occasion ends up with us being a little snippy towards each other. I much prefer that to this below the radar stuff.

trisher Sat 14-Nov-20 13:36:57

Thanks I'd have to add that suziewoozie and the posters who are knowledgeable about something and share their expertise. I've learned lots on GN.

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 13:18:01

Lucca

trisher

The interesting thing I've discovered is that there are posters I wildly disagree with but respect because they have firmly held views (even if they are wrong), posters I share some common ground with but disagree on other things, posters who think and believe like me, and posters who, quite frankly, I find a pain in the ass.

Absolutely this.

I would expand this to include the statement posters who value truth and factual accuracy when putting forward their views and opinions.

Anniebach Sat 14-Nov-20 13:15:53

GrannyGravy I remember that thread, it was vicious. So glad
you rose above it x

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 13:13:21

trisher

The interesting thing I've discovered is that there are posters I wildly disagree with but respect because they have firmly held views (even if they are wrong), posters I share some common ground with but disagree on other things, posters who think and believe like me, and posters who, quite frankly, I find a pain in the ass.

Absolutely this.

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 13:12:23

Anniebach

trisher you missed off your list posters in your opinion are
‘Embittered old crones ‘.

.to quote Namsnanny......”some of the difficulties lie in dragging past problems into new “

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Nov-20 12:58:55

Anniebach I am extremely grateful for the kindness you gave to me when I dipped my toe into a political thread for the first time.

Anniebach Sat 14-Nov-20 12:55:13

Not possible for some GranyGravy and this is why this forum has hit the depths

Galaxy Sat 14-Nov-20 12:54:11

I havent found it hostile to me but I still find it deeply unpleasant.

Chewbacca Sat 14-Nov-20 12:51:21

It's been interesting to see who has found this thread as an opportunity to speak about how they've found GN in general to be recently and who has found the thread to be irksome and hostile towards them.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Nov-20 12:50:09

It is perfectly possible to disagree with a post/poster without being rude or resort to name calling and personal attacks.

I am going to use another posters analogy play the ball not the (wo)man

trisher Sat 14-Nov-20 12:44:14

Anniebach

trisher you missed off your list posters in your opinion are
‘Embittered old crones ‘.

Oh I think I covered them Annie -pain? ass?

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:42:48

GrannyLaine

suziewoozie

GrannyLaine

As perhaps could you suziewoozie.
A large part of the problem is that some read posts to really listen to what is being said and others read to respond with their own agenda.
Just like in real life

Oh dear - again, well done OP

Twist and deflect. I rest my case.

So do I. Utte4 nonsense all this - thanks again OP. Well done .

GrannyLaine Sat 14-Nov-20 12:39:58

suziewoozie

GrannyLaine

As perhaps could you suziewoozie.
A large part of the problem is that some read posts to really listen to what is being said and others read to respond with their own agenda.
Just like in real life

Oh dear - again, well done OP

Twist and deflect. I rest my case.

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:37:42

Anniebach

trisher you missed off your list posters in your opinion are
‘Embittered old crones ‘.

And your point is?

Anniebach Sat 14-Nov-20 12:34:40

trisher you missed off your list posters in your opinion are
‘Embittered old crones ‘.

Namsnanny Sat 14-Nov-20 12:31:04

Well, all I know is GN has been this way since my baptism of fire!
But I understood some of the reasons behind it, and gave as good as I got.

Since then I've tried to treat each post or poster on the merits of said post.

But it seem to me some of the difficulties lie in dragging past problems into new discussions.

It's quite a common thing and happens all over internet forums so I'm told.

trisher Sat 14-Nov-20 12:30:38

The interesting thing I've discovered is that there are posters I wildly disagree with but respect because they have firmly held views (even if they are wrong), posters I share some common ground with but disagree on other things, posters who think and believe like me, and posters who, quite frankly, I find a pain in the ass.

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:27:35

GrannyLaine

As perhaps could you suziewoozie.
A large part of the problem is that some read posts to really listen to what is being said and others read to respond with their own agenda.
Just like in real life

Oh dear - again, well done OP

Nanna58 Sat 14-Nov-20 12:24:47

Reading this thread and I’m thinking “ have I fallen down a rabbit hole???????” ?

GrannyLaine Sat 14-Nov-20 12:22:29

As perhaps could you suziewoozie.
A large part of the problem is that some read posts to really listen to what is being said and others read to respond with their own agenda.
Just like in real life

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:12:07

Spinnaker

Chewbacca

Those of us who have not been intentionally unkind, harsh or unthinking, will not be unduly bothered by this thread, or in discussing the subject matter. Those who are uncomfortable with it might take a moment to reflect.

Well said Chewbacca but don't hold your breath about any reflections, it doesn't happen I'm afraid.

And again - oh to be perfect - perhaps instead some of you should see yourselves as others see you.

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:06:25

Notinthemanual

I'm sending hugs. I'm not going name you all because I'm going to go and have a cup of tea and a biscuit.

Thank you to the Grans who were supportive and to those who disagreed without name calling. Hugs to you too.

The interesting thing I've discovered about approaching negativity with compassion, if not love, is it makes me feel better.

Before you start, I don't mean better than you.

I mean it creates a buffer. Before I tried that approach I'd have probably been quite hurt by some of this thread.

Disingenuity is not something I admire - at all, ever.