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Sending a Hug to the Keyboard Warriors

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Notinthemanual Sat 14-Nov-20 08:20:26

That was quite a week for unpleasantness. I’ve wondered why some Grans are that way. Do they feel unheard IRL and vent their frustration here?

I saw an anecdote elsewhere recently… A mother had told her young son off for being cruel to his school friends. The child replied “They are dumb, and they need to know that.” I’ve known some really smart, self-reliant, resilient, well-dressed adults who never needed to make sure everyone knew that are others were less so. They had healthy self-esteem, compassion and were wise enough to know that not everyone’s reality is the same.

There are ways to disagree without being disagreeable. There is a preview box. And of course, the guideline to not say something that you wouldn’t say face to face. Perhaps those Grans are as forthright with people they barely know IRL. Perhaps that is why they are here.

I don’t take the good advice to just skip past their posts – I think I have some fascination with the horrible. But I have come to a new conclusion. IMO those Grans need a hug. I’m sending love and smiling; imagining them indignantly trying to bat it away with a fly swatter; my good wishes drifting through the mesh and settling on them.

It also occurred to me that they might just need to up their fluid and vegetable intake.

Thankfully, those Grans are a tiny minority. The rest of you lovely people brighten my day with your kindness, wisdom and good humour.

suziewoozie Sat 14-Nov-20 12:04:38

Blossoming

Are you having a bad day suziewoozie?

(Don’t shout at me, I’m joking. Though if you are having a bad day I hope it gets better).

I’ll take your post as kind then. ? My day is fine btw other than passive aggressive gfery threads like this. The worst of GN but it’s heartening to see many posts not exactly endorsing a thread which imo was set up to cause discord.

Kalu Sat 14-Nov-20 11:46:19

Well said Chewbacca.

When I see a poster being deliberately upset whenever someone wades in with snide comments, I’m afraid I can’t simply walk on by and ignore, blatant nastiness.

gfery - goadyfuckery. It’s MN speak.

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 11:42:29

And again.. Kandinsky I choked at the Dali lama thing. ?

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 11:41:42

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Kandinsky Sat 14-Nov-20 11:39:40

Why does anyone need a hug from you op?
Who are you?
The Dalai Lama?
Please stop this nonsense.

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 11:36:55

And as for mean undercurrent naming no names thing....I’m pretty sure I’ve had an implied mention .
Anyway off into the fog and damp for a walk.

trisher Sat 14-Nov-20 11:35:37

I do wish there was a finger down throat emoji on here.

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 11:34:32

Lexisgranny

As a floating voter I do object to being categorised politically based on my opinion on this thread,

You are not ! I was noticing that ok just for example JE and I are sworn political adversaries but have agreed on here
That’s my point ...

Galaxy Sat 14-Nov-20 11:33:42

I think be kind is one of the worst pieces of advice ever to take hold. Everyone has a different idea of be kind.

Blossoming Sat 14-Nov-20 11:32:31

Are you having a bad day suziewoozie?

(Don’t shout at me, I’m joking. Though if you are having a bad day I hope it gets better).

Notinthemanual Sat 14-Nov-20 11:30:27

I'm sending hugs. I'm not going name you all because I'm going to go and have a cup of tea and a biscuit.

Thank you to the Grans who were supportive and to those who disagreed without name calling. Hugs to you too.

The interesting thing I've discovered about approaching negativity with compassion, if not love, is it makes me feel better.

Before you start, I don't mean better than you.

I mean it creates a buffer. Before I tried that approach I'd have probably been quite hurt by some of this thread.

JenniferEccles Sat 14-Nov-20 11:21:04

It has, hasn’t it Lucca !

I thought the extent of our common ground would end with Clipper organic tea!

Apologies if I am wrong and it wasn’t you though! ?

Blossoming Sat 14-Nov-20 11:21:03

25Avalon

If people didn’t leave. If instead every time someone posted something nasty we said “oh you poor thing. You must be having a bad day. Have a big hug” would that not defeat their object?

I like this idea. I hope I’m not one of the cruel people, it’s not always easy to express oneself in text rather than face to face. Mood isn’t easy to communicate.

Spinnaker Sat 14-Nov-20 11:19:34

Chewbacca

Those of us who have not been intentionally unkind, harsh or unthinking, will not be unduly bothered by this thread, or in discussing the subject matter. Those who are uncomfortable with it might take a moment to reflect.

Well said Chewbacca but don't hold your breath about any reflections, it doesn't happen I'm afraid.

trisher Sat 14-Nov-20 11:19:22

That was quite a week for unpleasantness. I’ve wondered why some Grans are that way. Do they feel unheard IRL and vent their frustration here?
Have I missed something. I know I've been a bit occupied this week and maybe haven't paid proper attention. Please could somebody point me in the right direction for the nastiness although I have an awful feeling that it will all have been deleted before I get there sad
Sometimes a little agro on GN makes me feel things aren't going totally to shit and there is still something to fight for. My fluid and vegetable intake is fine by the way and I've just proved it.
As for hugs well that's up to you, just now they're not allowed and I usually avoid them anyway. It's only very close friends and family who are allowed. Anyone else I regard as having ulterior motives (which I'm sure the OP hasn't of course, being such a nice person.)

Alegrias2 Sat 14-Nov-20 11:19:15

Notinthemanual I don’t pretend to know that you have thoughts that you are not expressing. Patronising people doesn’t need to be intentional. Your thoughts of kindness are no doubt well-intentioned. I’ll tell you why I feel it was patronising.

You suggest at the end of the 3rd paragraph that there may be some Grans on here because they can’t get on with people in real life. You recommend more liquids and vegetables to help them form their character (Was that a joke? I can’t tell.) Then in a later post you referred to me in the third person, as if I was a six year old child in need of instruction. Then finished with the passive aggressive reference to “not having to name people”. Maybe you didn’t mean to be patronising, but all these things can be considered that way.

It does strike me as a bit superior as well because the “sending the love” thing is just a wee bit overblown. Just ignore them, you have no responsibility to try to save anyone.

My thoughts alone, if anyone wants to disagree I’m fine with that because I’ve got my big girl pants on.

Lexisgranny Sat 14-Nov-20 11:16:08

As a floating voter I do object to being categorised politically based on my opinion on this thread,

Lexisgranny Sat 14-Nov-20 11:07:30

Chewbacca. Entirely agree

Bathsheba Sat 14-Nov-20 11:07:00

Spot on Chewbacca

Lucca Sat 14-Nov-20 11:05:24

Before the thread gets deleted can I point out something VERY interesting I’ve observed here
It has united those normally on opposite sides of the political spectrum!! In finding the premise a little patronising etc

Poppyred Sat 14-Nov-20 11:05:17

Ahh but they won’t Chewbacca ...too busy feeling outraged by the OP daring to post such a thread.

Galaxy Sat 14-Nov-20 11:05:05

I think some people find it very difficult to recognise when they are being unkind, I would much prefer a direct arguement than this kind of undercover meanness.

GrannyLaine Sat 14-Nov-20 11:04:52

Chewbacca you have it in a nutshell.

Chewbacca Sat 14-Nov-20 10:58:58

Those of us who have not been intentionally unkind, harsh or unthinking, will not be unduly bothered by this thread, or in discussing the subject matter. Those who are uncomfortable with it might take a moment to reflect.

Kandinsky Sat 14-Nov-20 10:58:19

Notinthemanual

I found your opening posts one of the most patronising and snide posts I’ve read in a long time.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.