Poppyred
?? Here we go ......again...
Well exactly - that’s why the thread was started.
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That was quite a week for unpleasantness. I’ve wondered why some Grans are that way. Do they feel unheard IRL and vent their frustration here?
I saw an anecdote elsewhere recently… A mother had told her young son off for being cruel to his school friends. The child replied “They are dumb, and they need to know that.” I’ve known some really smart, self-reliant, resilient, well-dressed adults who never needed to make sure everyone knew that are others were less so. They had healthy self-esteem, compassion and were wise enough to know that not everyone’s reality is the same.
There are ways to disagree without being disagreeable. There is a preview box. And of course, the guideline to not say something that you wouldn’t say face to face. Perhaps those Grans are as forthright with people they barely know IRL. Perhaps that is why they are here.
I don’t take the good advice to just skip past their posts – I think I have some fascination with the horrible. But I have come to a new conclusion. IMO those Grans need a hug. I’m sending love and smiling; imagining them indignantly trying to bat it away with a fly swatter; my good wishes drifting through the mesh and settling on them.
It also occurred to me that they might just need to up their fluid and vegetable intake.
Thankfully, those Grans are a tiny minority. The rest of you lovely people brighten my day with your kindness, wisdom and good humour.
Poppyred
?? Here we go ......again...
Well exactly - that’s why the thread was started.
If any of us had any sense we’d leave this thread to sink into its own .......
?? Here we go ......again...
Chewbacca
Do you feel that any of the comments could be alluding to you Suziewoozie?
QED my post about starting this thread. Let’s all wonder who is being referred to, let’s make nasty little responses and innuendos, just lets. What a sweet nice helpful,thread this is aimed at making us all feel better and brightening our days. Well done OP have a ?and ?
I thought it was a typo suzie. 
GrannyGravy13
gfery ?
It’s a less polite way of saying the thread could be seen as deliberately stirring up negativity or in another less polite way s**t stirring.
Clear as mud suziewoozie 
Well yes it does depend on the poster! There woudnt be anything to say if said poster hadn't been rather short and cruel to someone trying to be helpful would there?
gfery ?
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What a thoroughly nasty snide sanctimonious patronising passive aggressive gfery of a thread. I take it you are all
approving of the terribly naice pile on on another thread? Or as I well suspect, are some pile one acceptable depending on the poster being piled upon?
“ I am often amazed at how many posters are drawn to certain threads like a moth to a flame even though they know it's going to upset them.”
Hmmm.
There is nastiness on Gransnet, that’s for sure, but there is also kindness and compassion. I have absolutely no problem with disagreement, but I do have a problem if posters are sanctimonious. Unfortunately a few are just that. I know there have been a fair few threads on this question recently, so maybe it is getting worse. For example, being told by another poster that you don’t understand when you understand very well, but happen to take a different view, how sanctimonious is that?
However, I’ve seen numerous threads where posters have been offered kindness and compassion, so it’s certainly not all bad.
Love that song, Walk On By. It was already in my head when I read Merlots post. Very good advice. People hate being ignored.
Apologies, got the two posters names the wrong way round.
I agree with Alegrias and others.
The only way to deal with unpleasantness is to ignore it. Protesting that unkind posts may affect other posters' wellbeing just proves that the arrows have hit their mark.
Starting a thread urging people to be kinder just fuels the fire and most of those threads end up being deleted so I often wonder if the aim is just to stir the pot?
I am often amazed at how many posters are drawn to certain threads like a moth to a flame even though they know it's going to upset them.
Just Walk On By!
JenniferEccles
Alegrias2 you have summed up pretty well how I feel about this.
Although I agree that there is a certain amount of nastiness at times on GN I do feel for instance that the accusation of ‘bullying’ is banded about too much.
Feelings do run high, especially on some topics, but on the other hand, wouldn’t too much sweetness and light just lead to very bland discussions?
Give someone who insults us a virtual hug you are asking??
Who was it who said “hug a hoodie” ?!!!
Good heavens to Murgatroyd (as my father used to say) I agree with you !!!
wouldn’t too much sweetness and light just lead to very bland discussions?
There is a point, somewhere in the middle, between snarky, pointed jibes and "sweetness and light". I think it's called respect for others that you may disagree with.
Thank you MaizieD. I hope Alegrias2 takes your point about thought police. She seems to think she knows I have thoughts I'm not expressing.
I am sincere about sending love. I don't think I'm the first person ever to suggest neutralising negativity with kindness. As for me not naming and shaming, I didn't need to did?
Alegrias2 you have summed up pretty well how I feel about this.
Although I agree that there is a certain amount of nastiness at times on GN I do feel for instance that the accusation of ‘bullying’ is banded about too much.
Feelings do run high, especially on some topics, but on the other hand, wouldn’t too much sweetness and light just lead to very bland discussions?
Give someone who insults us a virtual hug you are asking??
Who was it who said “hug a hoodie” ?!!!
The fly swatter is a great analogy Notinthe manual and I have been batted under the mesh a few times. I admit I can sometimes be a prickly little midge with some of my replies to a particular comment, but I am neither a dirty, unkind bluebottle nor a nasty stinging wasp.
Just on another thread today someone else jokingly described unpleasant posters as spiders lurking ready to "have a go". So by that analogy we are all part of the same species after all! (But by golly she was completely squished to smithereens by the swatter too. Ouch!)
I know it is only a couple of posters who seem to dislike my buzz, but I have a tube of anthisan to keep me upbeat, and I will
continue to hover. Let's try to inject a bit of humour not venom.
I’m sorry to say but I get really annoyed with “certain posters”. And “we all know who they are”. I’m not sure I do.
We’ve had threads like this many times and of course they are well meant but whenever I’ve seen unkind posts they’re usually followed by supportive comebacks from other posters.? Plus of course we can just report really offensive posts.
Alegrias2 patronising and superior? No.
Gransnet has become a very different place recently. I and many others who have been hurt and upset by those who seem to assume intellectual superiority and don't think twice about putting others down. Unfortunately there are many of us who now look in from time to time but post only infrequently. At a time when many of us are struggling, a forum such as this could be a place of friendship. But it really, really isn't.
Whilst I appreciate what Notinthemanual is saying, and I agree to some extent, I have to say that I think Marydoll is probably right. There most definitely is a hard-core of posters who seem to derive great satisfaction from posting snarky, bitchy little comments which, to them, are probably seen as being "realistic" or "not sugar coated". But to the person the comment is aimed at, it's received as being hurtful, personal and judgemental. Most normal people would immediately apologise when they've been made aware that they have hurt or upset someone, whether intentionally or not, but not these..... they add more and more self justifying posts. I have noticed that this is often worse later into the evening and I've wondered if

skews their thinking.
In Real Life - If I saw one of those "horrible" people walking down the road, I'd cross the road to avoid them.
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