Karma?

Unfortunately for many evil people the consequences of their actions never come back to bite them.

I believe that the best revenge is to live well, and watch your tormentors trip themselves up

One of our DILs is a firm believer in Karma and I think I am slowly coming round to the idea also.

Not really too many people get away for years and years with bad actions, so no it’s a nice thought, but it just that, a nice thought

As a natural consequence, grannygravy, or by the hand of some unseen force of nature?
Some sort of spiritual judge? (I'm not being facetious, I'm genuinely interested)

Bad things happen to good people, and the reverse I suppose.

Who decrees what is a bad action and what is a good one?

Actually we have so little control over most of our lives and decisions. Although it's not something we like to acknowledge.

3/4 of the trajectory of our lives is set in motion before we even exist, where we are born, our gender, our parents, etc.

Who would choose to be born into a war torn or poverty stricken 3rd world country?

If we or an omnipotent being (such as Karma?) can't give us what we need to flourish in life, why should it pay back for the wrongs we do?

Ignore me I'm waffling

It's really interesting waffling.
Now then, could being born in such dire circumstances be karmic retribution for bad deeds in a former life?

I’d like to think that karma exists, but I’m not sure that it does

Not sure to be honest MissAdventure but we do know of several people who have let’s say been less than nice on their way up, only for them to be surprised when folks were not falling over themselves to help them out when they fell on harder times.

I just try to treat others as I would like others to treat me, yes I know it could be called twee , but as I have got older it does make more sense, along with if you cannot say anything nice, don’t say anything at all .

I would be mortified if by my actions or words unknowingly hurt someone.

Not sure whether I’m into the karma belief either - I’ve seen too many bad deeds be rewarded and good turns go punished.

I do remember however, the then England manager Glenn Hoddle, get into trouble for suggesting that handicaps were punishment for previous lives misdeeds.

I would really like Karma to be real.

Me too.
I think a lot of people could sleep more soundly knowing that karmic debts would be paid.

I worked with an absolute witch years ago, she was very nasty and made my working life most unpleasant.
She bragged about everything and was very materialistic.
It was all about cars, handbags, holidays etc.

Fast forward 15 years and were visiting our great friends for the weekend, we arrived early on a Friday afternoon as we were being shown to our accommodation, a guest cottage in the grounds of the house...... madam came out with a bucket and cloth!

She scurried away fast!!

I wish it were true. Karma never catches up with some people.

Jane10

I would really like Karma to be real.

I would too. I love this -
‘ The mills of God grind slowly
But they grind exceeding small.
Though with patience He stands waiting,
With exactness grinds He all.’

I know it does sound really vengeful, and suppose I shouldn’t take pleasure in the idea of someone getting their comeuppance!

I'd like to think that karma would catch up, but the longer I live, the less optimistic I am unfortunately. On the rare occassion that I've seen devine retribution occurr, it's been very satisfying.

Oh I think it does appear. It might take time but eventually it strikes when least expected and that's the beauty of it

If it’s true that ‘handicaps’ (horrid word) are payback for misdeeds in a previous life I was obviously super evil

I hate the idea of karma, its nonsense of course but it implies that those who have had terrible things happen to them somehow deserve it.

EllanVannin Do you think the natural consequences of our actions come into play, or is it some balancing "force" that sets karma in motion?

Jane10

I would really like Karma to be real.

This, me too - and it’s not ???

Yes, I do believe in Karma. You reap what you sow. Whilst it seems that some people escape punishment for their actions, I sincerely believe that eventually they will pay the price.

Thank you, woodmouse.
Do you think that implies some higher power at work? God? The force of nature, or of science?

I've put this up for posters who might want to know more about Karma. It's an easy read ?
www.mindbodygreen.com/0-20223/5-ways-karma-from-your-past-lives-affects-you-today.html