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Parky Wed 09-Dec-20 08:12:14

Personally I would rather UK left EU without a deal than give up our freedom. We can avoid buying French food and wine, on the wholecwe drink new world wines anyway.
British cheeses are just as good.

As for travel, we all managed before freedom of movement and can easily go back.

The thought of caving into europe and their desire to annexe uk fills me with horror

Chewbacca Thu 10-Dec-20 22:08:48

all the EU people absolutely love Scotland and most of them just head for there

Gosh, you know all 446 million of them? Wow! Your Christmas card list must take ages to do.

MawBe Thu 10-Dec-20 22:10:43

I don’t understand why Biba claims to be able to speak for the rest of the EU - various odds upthread imply “insider” information ( all the EU people love Scotland ) when 1) she does not live in a EU country and simultaneously 2) pleads UK citizenship at every turn
You can’t have it both ways - it’s called “running with the hare while hunting with the hounds”
Who is to say you know better than anybody else? Despite inhabiting an island we are not necessarily insular
Perhaps that is what some posters have found irritating - this attitude of knowing better and despite your protestations you still refer t the UK as “you” not “us”
Bonne chance, you will need it
Speaks volumes,

lemongrove Thu 10-Dec-20 22:11:45

That’s an idea Elliane .....we could all have tatoos on our ears instead of passports ! ? Somebody send that suggestion to Number 10 please, think of the time it would save when going through customs.

MawBe Thu 10-Dec-20 22:12:24

Ellianne

I care about my pets' passports. My dogs are British, but my cats are French and have passeports. They also have tattoos in their ears to prove it!

Hattie also has an EU pet passport - (and tattoos in her ear) bring an Irish greyhound d’origine

MawBe Thu 10-Dec-20 22:13:10

Being not “bring”

Lucretzia Thu 10-Dec-20 22:13:57

We get plenty of visitors from the EU to England. Almost 25 million Europeans came to the UK in 2019. I don't believe they all just went to Scotland!

There seems to be 3 camps here. Those who are desperate to remain, those who are desperate to leave and the third group who are sat in the middle. Accepting what's going on.

It's not great. I voted Remain.

But I can't change it!

Nobody can.

Dinahmo Thu 10-Dec-20 22:17:38

I'm with Biba on this. She doesn't deserve the response she's been getting from some of you.

We moved to France about 12 years ago really so that we could have a project and build own home, which we have done. For many years I thought we would at some time return to England but now I'm not sure that I want to. I think all of our friends in England are Remainers and, like the rest have different attitudes to what is now happening. Some think that they have to make the best of it, some are angry and some are very depressed. They all hate the nastiness and divisiveness that is happening at the moment.

I sincerely hope that the worst isn't going to happen but fear it will.

On a lighter note, since we've been here I make a lot of marmalade. We're just finishing a batch my OH made with Bergamots a few weeks ago. Soon the Italian equivalent of Seville oranges will be in the shops plus Cedrat, which are like enormous lemons and make the best marmalade. I hope that the supplies of Sevilles to the UK will not be held at the ports for too long.

Ellianne Thu 10-Dec-20 22:19:00

Hattie est de quelle couleur MawBe?
Our French cats are black, and you can hardly read their tattoos.
Black cats are unlucky in France, once again our two nations can't agree. Our black brothers were about to be destroyed by the SPA because no one wanted them.

MawBe Thu 10-Dec-20 22:21:41

Noire - Ellianne - big, beautiful and black!

lemongrove Thu 10-Dec-20 22:22:54

Black cats are the least popular colour here too, charities always have more than they can home.
Strangely though, here they are considered lucky ( if one crosses your path) whereas in Italy ( and some other countries) it’s considered very unlucky!

lemongrove Thu 10-Dec-20 22:24:58

Maw...why have you sewn a white cotton patch onto poor
Hattie??

Ellianne Thu 10-Dec-20 22:27:40

lemongrove

Black cats are the least popular colour here too, charities always have more than they can home.
Strangely though, here they are considered lucky ( if one crosses your path) whereas in Italy ( and some other countries) it’s considered very unlucky!

So why do we give good luck black cat horseshoes when brides get married?

Ellianne Thu 10-Dec-20 22:30:33

One of my Frenchboys. The tattoo is in his left ear which also has a chunk bitten off it by his frère méchant.

growstuff Thu 10-Dec-20 22:32:13

Oh good! Is it safe in here now? Has the bullying stopped?

lemongrove Thu 10-Dec-20 22:35:23

Strange isn’t it? We think them lucky, yet they are the least liked colour for people to want to re-home.I think them rather beautiful, but then I like black dogs too, particularly black labradors.
The association with witches accounts for them being unpopular, so having one cross your path ( and thinking it lucky) is possibly because it’s going away from you?
I expect a poster will be along shortly who has googled the reasons and can tell us.

growstuff Thu 10-Dec-20 22:36:23

Chewbacca

What I can't get my head around is the double standards of who can, and who can't, post on events in the UK. Earlier this week, on a different thread, one poster (who lives in the UK but is currently trapped in another EU country due to COVID lockdown) was actually challenged as to whether she had the right to comment on current events in her home town because she isn't actually living there. That poster is a self admitted Brexit voter. Is it that that makes the difference? hmm

Ahem! I didn't question the right. I questioned how that poster knew from first-hand experience, when her knowledge of the situation being discussed could only have been second-hand - and probably from a selected group of like-minded people or the media.

However, people seemed to enjoy misinterpreting what I'd written and piling in, so I left them to it.

lemongrove Thu 10-Dec-20 22:37:02

Wow, he’s a good sized cat Elliane ?

Ellianne Thu 10-Dec-20 22:37:22

growstuff

Oh good! Is it safe in here now? Has the bullying stopped?

Wir tun unser Bestes growstuff.

growstuff Thu 10-Dec-20 22:39:36

PS. That thread had nothing at all to do with Brexit.

Lucretzia Thu 10-Dec-20 22:39:51

Hola, como estas?

Lovely pup, MawBe!

We had a beautiful greyhound. He lived to be 15 which was pretty good going. Most gentle dog I've ever owned

Sunny82z Thu 10-Dec-20 22:40:05

I can't understand why Biba keeps banging on about the EU, Switzerland isn't in the EU.

Everything will be fine eventually. I voted remain but I respect the decision of my fellow country persons that voted to leave, so be it, let's just brace ourselves and get on with it.

Ellianne Thu 10-Dec-20 22:40:53

lemongrove

Wow, he’s a good sized cat Elliane ?

He was a lot bigger in his heyday lemon. He is 15 in that photo.
I kid you not, he saw off wild boar in France. When he moved to London he took on the urban foxes and won!

Lucretzia Thu 10-Dec-20 22:43:20

Here he is! My lovely Larry. We got him from a rescue place and he was in such a mess but a couple of days with us and he being his beautiful self.

Lasted until he was 15

Very sad day when we had to say goodbye. This is his last photo with me. He had got to the stage where is life had no quality. Back legs had given up and we knew we had to say farewell

lemongrove Thu 10-Dec-20 22:44:53

? Did he get the wild boar through the cat flap? What a brave moggy though, amazing, he must be very territorial, some cats are more than others.Is he called Asterix?

Ellianne Thu 10-Dec-20 22:45:13

Aw that's very touching.
Rainbow Bridge.