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Why couldn’t he do that yesterday?

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midgey Mon 04-Jan-21 20:21:47

Everyone knew there was a lockdown coming so why on earth did Boris not just crack on yesterday. Did he have to wait for Nicola?

Lucretzia Tue 05-Jan-21 12:53:15

I think you need to do a spot of reading, Nannan2

Lazy parents did not insist on keeping schools open. This was a decision by Governments in order to allow parents working for the NHS or similar to be able to allow their children to be schooled.

It makes perfect sense.

Lucca Tue 05-Jan-21 12:54:47

Bbbface

Lucca

Totally Agree. Just cruel. My DGD so excited to go back today now no more school.

But if you agree with the OP, then if you knew lockdown was coming why wasn’t the child’s expectations managed?!

I explained to my children that it looks likely schools would be closed but I would get school bits ready anyway. I promised a film and an ice cream in the evening (in Jan!) if school was cancelled.

Consequently - all ok

Perhaps because Boris said on Sunday that schools were safe.
Perhaps because previously schools had been threatened with legal action. If they didn’t open.
And how do you know their parents didn’t “manage their expectations”?.
Good for you with the film and Ice cream. I expect most kids have had plenty of that in the last two weeks.

Nannan2 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:01:07

Ggw- im not speaking of the occasional drop off, in the car, with coat-over- pyjamas, to dash back to feed crying baby- im on about the ones who Actually WALK TO school gates ech day, in pyjamas, or "leisure suits" they can now get away with calling them- and just shove their kids in the gates then stand chatting, gossiping,and smoking for ages with others much like themselves..every day.Not just occasionally cause they're juggling a hard day.The ones i speak of don't know what a hard day is.So don't pretend it doesn't happen, that these folk don't exist.It does, and yes, sadly, some of them do.

Nannan2 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:05:52

And some even DO have younger ones with them, in buggies, who cry and they ignore them as long as they can, breathing smoke all around them...these are people i have actually seen, and even know some, over the years, whilst ive taken my own children to school.And yes i would hope we can all be better parents than that...

Nannan2 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:06:42

*typo- each day.

Nannan2 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:09:10

And thats getting way off the OP post about Boris and the gov't descision.As usual....

quizqueen Tue 05-Jan-21 13:12:14

My granddaughter's Primary Head Teacher is happy to open for all children but says, if the teachers refuse to go in, then he cannot. Boris does not follow Nicola, she always jumps the gun to make herself look better!

I hope no one on this site ever goes out in a car because you have more chance in dying in an accident than you will ever have from flu and a fat lot of good wearing has done us because they don't work. Stay at home scared of everything if you want to, but the rest of the world should be allowed to get on with their life.

quizqueen Tue 05-Jan-21 13:13:04

'wearing masks'

Tweedle24 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:13:20

Whilst I agree that this was all too last minute, resulting in chaos, I do have some sympathy with anyone trying to steer a course through this, regardless of political persuasion. Yes, of course they have to listen to the scientists but, they also have to listen to the economists and many other lobbyists, all pulling in different directions.

sazz1 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:24:30

My daughter is a teacher and found out at 8pm last night when the rest of the population did. She was replying to emails from the school and worried parents at 10.30pm last night. Told to go into work today, her daughter's school closed today even for critical worker's children until tomorrow. She can't take daughter in with her not allowed.
Her adult cousin, bless her, stepped in at 11pm last night and is at her home looking after DGD for today. She's gone to school to look after NHS, Police, vulnerable children etc. Then she will be teaching from home, often until 8pm as parents are working from home and can't supervise kids education until they finish work. Also teaching her own young child at the same time who is in a different year group. Primary children need motivation from parents to do the work.
And the icing on the cake is its her first week in a new job at this school.
So to those knocking teachers you have no idea how hard a job teaching remotely is.

Galaxy Tue 05-Jan-21 13:32:09

I judge the parenting of those who reel of judgemental comments about people they know nothing about, thank goodness my children dont do that. I blame the parents of these peoplewink

Galaxy Tue 05-Jan-21 13:32:33

Off not of.

Lucca Tue 05-Jan-21 13:34:09

quizqueen

My granddaughter's Primary Head Teacher is happy to open for all children but says, if the teachers refuse to go in, then he cannot. Boris does not follow Nicola, she always jumps the gun to make herself look better!

I hope no one on this site ever goes out in a car because you have more chance in dying in an accident than you will ever have from flu and a fat lot of good wearing has done us because they don't work. Stay at home scared of everything if you want to, but the rest of the world should be allowed to get on with their life.

He can’t open because we are in lockdown.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:41:03

Lucca all schools are open for vulnerable children and those of key workers, English schools have never closed

beverly10 Tue 05-Jan-21 13:44:09

It was anticipated and the moaners of this will be, in my view, the ones who by their lack of common sense, there is not one human being that could not catch this virus (never say never) partied on regardless at christmas mixing household with household.
Boring as it may be I will not apart from any medical help have contact other than by electronic means with another human being Boring boring What price life ?

4allweknow Tue 05-Jan-21 13:45:20

I feel tactics are used when a restriction is needed. Scotland and Wales have such a small population and largely concentrated in a few areas. England has a huge population in comparison with some cities having a greater population than the whole of Scotland and Wales. The smaller amount of populations are easier to persuade and have comply with any restrictions so a quick application is applied. For England having by comparison a huge population covering a larger area it must be harder to get compliance hence the drip drip method to ease the population into being more accepting of restrictions. Psychology is surely applied at managing diverse populations albeit to achieve the same end.

Deedaa Tue 05-Jan-21 13:58:22

Boris has the mentality of a small child. He puts off all important decisions till the last minute in the hope that it will all go away.

sharon103 Tue 05-Jan-21 14:38:58

lemongrove

Mollygo ...Have to disagree with you there that ‘we on GN could run the country better’ ?although some no doubt think that they could.

I have to agree with you there lemongrove. smile

Jaxjacky Tue 05-Jan-21 14:47:59

mamaa Thé school DD works at had a rota during the last lockdown to ensure the correct ratio of staff to pupils, she was working maybe 2 days a week of her normal 4. This time, all staff will have to be in as the number of parents stating they are key workers has increased significantly.

Alioop Tue 05-Jan-21 14:49:01

Our lot in Stormont have dithered the whole way along. Lockdown from Boxing Day, kids going back to school. Then going back a week later, now not back for a month, in talks again today. I nipped to a paypoint for a gas top-up yesterday evening and gangs of kids all hanging about, some in the shop with no masks, one behind me in the queue with no mask. Our lot need to bring law in that you are not allowed in anywhere without mask. What is the point of keeping them out of school when they hang around bored in large groups in the community and getting away with going in shops without a mask and pass it around anyway. I really don't know what's the best way of dealing with all this.

sharon103 Tue 05-Jan-21 14:49:12

GrannyGravy13

Nannan2 how horribly judgmental your post of 11.44 today is!!!

Many UK schools had 04/01 as an inset day so not all children were in school for just one day.

Nicola Sturgeon has always had her broadcast earlier than the PM, doesn’t necessarily mean BJ is copying her strategy, just means she broadcasts hers first!

Well said. I agree GrannyGravy.

Just to add that. I didn't vote at the last election but in my opinion no government, scientists, NHS etc dealing with this pandemic deserves a medal.
No-one could ever get it 100% perfect.

sharon103 Tue 05-Jan-21 15:00:57

Sorry i meant all not no government etc

sharon103 Tue 05-Jan-21 15:03:35

Why is there not a delete and start again button?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 05-Jan-21 15:09:35

sharon103

Why is there not a delete and start again button?

I would like to delete 2020

Theoddbird Tue 05-Jan-21 15:16:17

Jillybird. I was aware of my words. You did not have to copy and paste them. I just don't get why people don't just give the name of a person when replying to them.

I have 4 grandchildren under nine. I am very aware of all the choices people have re school at the moment.

I actually think all parents should have the choice on whether their children redo this year starting in September. It would be the answer. No children would be missing out on any of their education. It would not be strange as all would be doing it...