The changing face of Gransnet?

Enter running mate

I am sure there is a lot of valuable stuff in here for the owners or mods or whoever. I am also sure they will have read it and decided it would be counter productive to pull it. Most suggestions seem to be positive so here’s hoping there are a few changes, minor perhaps but changes nevertheless.

How would I know who has a dog? Sorry Callistemon, 1) I haven't read the whole thread (its mostly boring) and 2) I don't know the members well enough to know that info.

YES, I know how the situation has come about. And as I said, it's been coming for a long time. I am surprised more people haven't been banned frankly. This can be a very unpleasant place at times. As the comment about 'running mate' shows. You (plural, not directed at you Callistemon) are all your own worst enemies.

GagaJo the person who appears to have been banned was involved in a robust discussion with Biba . I am sure you must have seen the exchanges. Both the disappeared GN member and Biba have been on GN for some time albeit with various names. I have seen their differences aired on many occasions so would have thought you could not have missed it.

I think you're very much in the minority Gagajo

And yes, you know perfectly well even without reading the thread.

Sorry if it bores you - didn't you say you thought Mumsnet might be better?

GagaJo
Do you seriously expect us to believe that you have not been reading all these posts.
i don't profess to know who you are on about Pull the other one.
I'm sure you read that I was posting on that thread when it was deleted. And I have a very good memory.
And it's MawBe, not the dog woman

It certainly is more interesting, with a greater range of topics. We could all try to add more 'topical' discussions.

Come off it Gaga you know exactly who we mean.
You already state you know how the situation has come about.
As for ‘unpleasant place’ you have been helped a lot by many posters with kind comments and good advice for all the threads you have started about your personal life.You didn’t think it was unpleasant then!

Well, I’m pretty new and I was able to work out who it was eventually! I was quite shocked at such harsh treatment of a long time poster.

Nope Petra, I am wading through THREE books that I have to teach tomorrow that I have fallen behind on. Bickering about who is and isn't a bully for 26 pages isn't worth wading through.

Some members ARE bullies.

Sorry if MawBe has gone. Is dog woman a different person?

Some members ARE bullies.

Yes - someone called juragran bullied me off once but I decided to come back with a thicker shell.

We all know you realise exactly what is going on, so stop pretending you don't.

Posters have been supportive and helpful towards you and your problems so don't turn round and kick them in the teeth now.

Oh whatever Callistemon. This isn't a playground and we aren't children.

I'm going back to my books.

I'm glad you came back Callistemon. I hadn't realised you'd left.0

The thread is about more than who is or is not a bully, it is about moderating a forum fairly and consistently and defining what will and what won't be deleted, and what misdemeaners will or won't attract a ban. Consistency is the keyword.

As a teacher, GagaJo, you know the value of justice not only being done, but being seen to be done, and done impartially. If it were seen by those who complained less often and less stridently that you favoured those with the loudest and most frequently raised voices, you would lose respect.

This is descending into a slanging match. A pity, because the vast majoroty of the posts have been amicable and sensible. I don't know why I am still sitting here reading all this. I have put the hot water bottle into the bed and locked up. Goodnight. If you are all wise you will pack it in and go to bed too before everyone gets fractious.

...its absolutely terrible, especially in these hard times,to actually BAN people from GN...its a lifeline for lots of members, more so for bereaved members...GNHQ sometimes your treatment of people is harsh...and heartless...and ridiculous...its a community, an online group of friends...you need to rethink the rules...

If posters want to come back as someone else (under a different name) I don’t see how that can work in some cases. For example, I flit between Manchester and Malaga. If I came back under another name #lazygran it would be pretty obvious who I was!

The same with some returnees ... I notice a name change for example but their lifestyle, where they live etc give away their identity!

Yes Elegran you are right. I feel myself getting more and more cross and therefore less sensible. Off to bed. Goodnight all.
GNHQ, please do the right thing and reinstate Mawbe. I think the truth of the matter is clear on this thread.

To be fair to GagaJo, it took me pages/ages to realise who all these cryptic “thin dogs” posts alluded to, and I’ve been on GN for over 8 years.

I haven’t seen whatever thread led to all the controversy. And I know I’m not observant, but I didn’t even know Maw had a dog. I’m guessing it’s discussed in the Kitchen or one of the other ongoing threads, and we don’t all spend time there.

Lifetime bans are very harsh. I wonder how many are doled out (the only one I’m sure of is Jingl’s, and the site is so much poorer for that). It’d surely be “in the spirit of the site” for GN to rethink the policy.

It’d surely be “in the spirit of the site” for GN to rethink the policy.

I agree, Maggiemaybe particularly at this troubled time when many posters may be alone, bereaved and need the support of other Gransnetters.

The guidelines are rather vague and surely need more clarity.

For those who want to get the attention of GNHQ I suggest you ask your question and then report your own post, that way the moderator is sure to see it.

In view of the strength of feeling manifested in this thread, I suggest that HQ should consider a general amnesty. Rescind the permanent suspension and cancel the final warnings issued to other members. This would be 'in the spirit of the site", as you say, Maggiemaybe.

Annodomini. That is an excellent idea !

I didn't get the dog references either. I'd no idea Mawbe had gone. I can't imagine she would really have posted anything so awful it justified a lifetime ban. Sometimes I think there is a whole other GN that I never get to see

Hear, hear anno.

annodomini ?

A fresh start for all, is a great idea.