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Serendipity22 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:05:44

My DD and family are in my 'bubble', I look after my GC one day a week and 1 of my granddaughters stays at mine a few days while school is closed and my DD working.

My question is, is it legal to have my DD and family at my house for a birthday meal for my DD?

I am confused. I mean everyone within the 'bubble' enters my house once week in any case. Help ....

Thank you in advance ....

Buffybee Mon 01-Feb-21 09:11:55

I'm pretty sure that if you are in their bubble, then you are treated as part of that family group.
I'm can't see why you shouldn't have them to a meal.

Esspee Mon 01-Feb-21 09:14:40

Putting aside what is legal have you considered what is sensible?
You are the one at risk in this scenario. Bubbles don’t protect you from coronavirus, outside contact could result in you being hospitalised. Having anyone come into your home is dangerous.
With light at the end of the tunnel why would you want to risk it now?

Gwyneth Mon 01-Feb-21 09:18:35

To be honest I think you are putting yourself at risk whether it is allowed or not. Can’t the birthday party be postponed until another time?

Maggiemaybe Mon 01-Feb-21 09:22:37

It is legal, and if you are seeing just the same people as you’re seeing regularly in your home anyway, I don’t see how it’s putting you at more risk.

PamelaJ1 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:22:43

Did Captain/Major Tom get covid from his bubble? I don’t know if he did or didn’t but be careful.

Gingster Mon 01-Feb-21 09:29:07

Not worth the risk

Rowsie Mon 01-Feb-21 09:30:17

I am part of my sons "bubble" and I am fairly sure it is OK to have them for a birthday meal. How I read it was that you are classed as part of their family bubble. Have a nice meal!

grandmajet Mon 01-Feb-21 09:31:32

I believe Major Tom and his family went to Barbados just before christmas, so may have been exposed during that trip. It’s probably best to keep contact to what is absolutely necessary.

moobox Mon 01-Feb-21 09:31:55

If you don’t have a partner and are in a social bubble, it is legal. If you have a partner then you are in a childcare bubble and it is not allowed to socialise, as far as I know

SpecialK57 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:35:55

The guidance around childcare bubbles states that social interaction between the 2 households involved in care giving is not allowed whereas if you are in a support bubble as a single adult you can act as members of one household

PamelaJ1 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:36:05

grandmajet
How did I miss that?

Applegran Mon 01-Feb-21 09:36:20

I just think you need to consider what is safe rather than focus on what is allowed. Of course we should only do what is allowed - but all our safety may require more care - over and above what is allowed.

Visgir1 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:38:30

I would go for it, as you are part of the family bubble. Go Buffet so you can all sit apart as well and have you had your vaccine yet?

Youcantchoosethem Mon 01-Feb-21 09:42:17

If you are on your own, plus being their childcare you are classed as being in their family or childcare bubble is my understanding. Enjoy your birthday and meal!

Capt. Tom couldn’t have got Covid directly from Barbados before Christmas - it’s too long an incubation. My OH’s dad got it from a carer we believe - he had carers coming in twice a day and she didn’t know she had it. He was otherwise isolating. Thankfully he has done amazingly - he’s 93 - and has whipped its arse! Had the paramedic out one night when they couldn’t control temperature and it made his dementia noticeably worse for a period but apart from that has been amazing!

Serendipity22 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:42:54

Thank you very much for all your replies, much appreciated.....

Danma Mon 01-Feb-21 09:45:52

If you’re in their bubble then you can spend time together at your home.

It’s my birthday today and I’m spending the day as usual looking after the grandchildren who are in my bubble.
Unfortunately no birthday dinner for me though ? but I hope you can enjoy yours ?

I’m looking forward to organising a big party for friends and family once this is all over.

polnan Mon 01-Feb-21 09:46:01

my bubble is my ds,dil and 4 gks.. in this last lockdown, seemed more serious to me, I stopped visiting them, and them coming here, as the 4 gks have various activities, legal, that they come into contact with a lot of people

so I have foregone using my bubble.. as someone said up above
is it worth the risk now? and Captain Tom, where did he get it from?

as I see it "bubbles" are not a safe haven, merely of , hopefully, saving some mental anguish

Sooze58 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:46:01

The rules are very clear that you cannot use a childcare bubble for socialising. When dropping off/collecting you should also be avoiding mixing inside. I miss my DDs dreadfully and have my grandson once a week bu we avoid indoor contact and the only socialising is one in one for a walk. I too had a birthday and they delivered presents ta and an afternoon tea on the doorstep. I have two teenagers still in school but it’s all about minimising the risk to yourself. There are so many ‘it’s onlys’ but the only way we’ll get rid of this is iris os to follow the rules/guidance until we’re all vaccinated ☹️

donna1964 Mon 01-Feb-21 09:46:57

If it was me I would be giving birthday parties a miss. This is how the Pandamic got worse...Christmas get togethers etc. This variant of Covid is alot stronger than before...just all be glad you have not got Covid up until now.
Hold out for celebrations when life is alot safer.

PECS Mon 01-Feb-21 09:51:42

Just because you " could" does not mean you "should" !

Prolonged time with others indoors will increase the chances of becoming infected.

I agree that some guidance appears crazy and illogical but some guidance is based, not on risk of infection, but expediency.

Urmstongran Mon 01-Feb-21 09:56:17

I think childcare bubbles mean just that. Childcare. We did it for 2 days after Christmas & felt safe because the children hadn’t missed with anyone since 17 December. However when our teacher daughter came home we got our boots and coats on & left. As she said ‘I’m home now mum. It’s childcare only, not an extension into a cheese and wine party. We have to stick by the rules. As our neighbours are doing.’

A childcare bubble is not the same as a support bubble.

Gingergirl Mon 01-Feb-21 09:58:09

If you live alone, you can have a support bubble and act as if you are part of that household ie no distancing etc. So, yes, you can have a meal with them if you would like to.

Nannarose Mon 01-Feb-21 09:59:02

As others have said, in terms of legality, you cannot use your childcare bubble for socialising.
If you live alone, and that family is your 'support bubble' then you can (and ' whether you should' is your decision)

We had the 'overnight' dilemma as we were needed for childcare until 10.30pm, then again at 7.30am. We decided that staying overnight was less risky than a 2 hour round trip. no-one lese in the bubble.

Mini2020 Mon 01-Feb-21 10:01:22

Personally I wouldn’t, like most people we have missed Birthday celebrations. If everyone waits to be vaccinated we can then hopefully celebrate!