Gransnet forums

Chat

Royalty the queen and her family.

(1001 Posts)
Grany Mon 08-Feb-21 16:16:48

Some news about our H o S
RF family want their 1969 documentary to be taken off air. The Queen was talking in it about a governor that looked like a gorilla, in one little clip, of docu seen on twitter.

Queen doesn't want her various shares and their values in companies made public too embarrassing. And lobbied in the 70s to be made exempt from new law. She has millions in off shore accounts.

P Charles land owner lobbied to be exempt from new leaseholder legislation that would have allowed homeowners to buy the land their property sits on.

And when people from the Duchy die with no living relatives P Charles gets the money, with other landowners around the country money goes to the treasury

Then there is Andrew

The 20,000 Sandringham Estate gets millions in subsidies

Queen gets her Wendy house refurbished to her own specifications including a new thatched roof.

Meanwhile in other news a little boy stole a tin of soup because he was so hungry, never mind.

www.republic.org.uk

GrannyGravy13 Wed 10-Feb-21 08:49:09

Grany furlough is available to all who qualify, we still have staff on furlough in my company.

I am beginning to think that your obsession with The Royal Family is rather unhealthy?

Esspee Wed 10-Feb-21 09:07:35

They all need a proper job Iam64

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-21 09:14:45

No one with ‘a proper job’ divorces or has an affair Espee ?

Franbern Wed 10-Feb-21 09:23:45

Not sure why this myth of the amount of money the royals attract to UK via tourism is once again repeated. They, or even Buck House do not appear in ANY of the top visited tourist attractions. It is, once again, a case of if something is repeated often enough - it must be a 'fact'.

It amused me when those who were so very keen to leave the EU, used as one of their reasons, that they wanted to 'take back control'. Yet, many of those people will line up to cheer the un-elected Head of State, and also support the unelected second house of Parliament.

Alegrias1 Wed 10-Feb-21 09:35:29

Its a mystery to me why any country in the 21st Century would want to have an unelected person involved in their government at all. If we need somebody to smile and say hello to foreign dignitaries, then I guess its fine to have some nice old lady do it. I'd rather she had the chance to retire and spend time with her family at the age of 94, but that's just me.

The fact that we have an unelected aristocrat representing our country always strikes me as something we need to change. I overheard an American couple in Westminster Hall once, discussing how happy they were to live in the US because they wouldn't like to have all these Princes telling them what to do. confused That's what people think of us and our democracy. I have had to tell French friends that the Duke of Edinburgh has nothing to do with running Edinburgh, boy they were confused.... Having such a prominent monarchy is giving a picture of the country that we could do without.

I don't care how much they cost, or whether their uncle got divorced or any of that, but I'd much rather have an elected Head of State. The choice doesn't have to be between The Queen and Trump, that's such a tired old argument.

How about Sarah Gilbert for President? Or JVT?

Grany Wed 10-Feb-21 09:42:11

GG13 I have begun to have interest it's one of my hobbies with Republic's new YouTube channel, Podcast and their new website concerning the RF I have always thought the monarchy is an unfair unjust system an hereditary HoS benefiting only them. And so I follow Republic enthusiastically, it's one of my pleasures ha.

Franbern true it's a myth RF don't bring in tourists

nadateturbe Wed 10-Feb-21 09:52:40

I don't see what's unhealthy about wanting to change a system which you see as unfair.
People who are passionate are needed.

Grany Wed 10-Feb-21 09:57:55

And it's good to see that quite a lot on Gransnet think the same, it's a topic RF most have an opinion on. Would they be as keen on P Charles to take over when the queen goes.

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-21 11:35:22

A republican wouldn’t be pleased no matter who after the Queen

Parsley3 Wed 10-Feb-21 11:42:27

There is nothing that is fair in a hereditary system as a way of passing on power. However, we are stuck with it and if the best argument for the Queen is that she is a tourist attraction, like the Eiffel Tower, then heaven help us.
As for an alternative, the best argument for that is that the public will have some say in it and that it wont last for generations. Still, if some people get comfort from being a loyal subject, then so be it.

GagaJo Wed 10-Feb-21 11:43:52

No, but he is beyond the pale.

Reduce it down. William and his family. Get rid of all the other hangers on.

nadateturbe Wed 10-Feb-21 11:53:58

A republican wouldn’t be pleased no matter who after the Queen

Obviously a Republican would prefer not to have a Monarch. If I had to choose one though, I could live with Anne.

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-21 11:56:15

I don’t understand what is meant by hangers on , who are these hangers on ?

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-21 12:01:47

nadateturbe this is the problem, you opt for Anne, perhaps
because she does her job and keeps her private life private.

Many adored Diana because she talked of everything apart from how often she went to the loo.

Many were for Edward 8th and didn’t want his brother .

Esspee Wed 10-Feb-21 12:02:02

Hangers on? Those not in direct line to the throne. Heir and spare is enough if we have to have a monarchy.

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-21 12:20:39

So Anne is a hanger on ? Her charity work not needed

Esspee Wed 10-Feb-21 12:45:29

I expect her mum has enough money to support her should we (the people) decide that an heir and spare is enough.

Greeneyedgirl Wed 10-Feb-21 12:50:11

I think it is a good thing that the Guardian has managed to expose a chink in the armour of secrecy that surrounds the queen. It’s a rare insight of what really goes on behind the scenes.

It shatters the widespread myth that the queen never involves herself in political matters. She is believed to act on ministerial advice, signing her name where required.

We live in a so called democracy but documents that relate to communications with the sovereign, or the next two persons in line to the throne, as well as palace officials acting on their behalf, are subject to absolute exemption from release under FofI laws. This Guardian revelation has obviously managed to slip through!

Esspee Wed 10-Feb-21 13:13:46

Anniebach

No one with ‘a proper job’ divorces or has an affair Espee ?

By having a proper job and not sponging off the rest of us they could fade into anonymity. They would no longer be of interest.

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-21 13:18:34

Espee so you accept affairs for all with the exception of the
royal family and your family who you would disown

nadateturbe Wed 10-Feb-21 13:25:38

Nothing to do with her private life. Just I could tolerate her on the throne.
I'm not going to criticise people personally.
I just am not a monarchist.

Esspee Wed 10-Feb-21 13:56:15

Anniebach why do you continually make personal attacks?
You try attacking by making up nonsense. Continue and I will report you.

Grandma70s Wed 10-Feb-21 14:11:24

I think if the Royals began to wield any power they have in any noticeable way they would be out on their ear (what on earth does that mean?) pretty quickly. As it is, they are harmless. They are not even particularly rich by the standards of some. I don’t know what all the fuss is about.

Anniebach Wed 10-Feb-21 14:19:01

Espee I have not made personal comments only in reply to
your own personal comments

Esspee Wed 10-Feb-21 14:24:47

You are not the Royal Family.

This discussion thread has reached a 1000 message limit, and so cannot accept new messages.
Start a new discussion