Arguments Thread

You know Covid is getting to you when...you talk about cushions.

Should policeman be armed with guns or not ?

Fanny You asked me a question on what seems to be a now deleted thread - brought my answer here as I feel it might shed a bit of light.

Fanny I can't answer for GN, but my own experience of moderating similar types of discussion sites would say that yes, they pretty much rely on reporting. Moderating is usually just a side role in what in essence a business that uses a forum/community etc to drive traffic towards advertising/non personal data collection etc. The money made by mining keywords and metadata is not insignificant these days so the main focus of anyone working for GN is likely to be in that area, not in monitoring what people are chatting about and will only intervene if their attention is drawn to it. They make it clear in their terms.

I can't state this as fact but my reasonably educated guess would be for GN itself - it's not a single entity, it's a 'product' of part of a much bigger concern - I doubt it has its own set of staff - when you see 'NellGransnet" on a an email - the suffix is so that NellMumsnet, or NellLeaf, or whatever, knows which bit of the business they need to look at. It doesn't necessarily mean they have a single role within a fairly large organisation. Which is also likely why the PM's haven't been fixed - allowing older ladies/gents to chat over PM is just not likely to be a priority in a larger business. It will no doubt get sorted, but not in too much of a hurry.

Places like GN are not a public service, they're businesses and on the internet their asset is information 'you' provide, not you as an individual. Harsh, but often true. The only way it would be different is if we had to pay a subscription to join and that was the main source of income. Even then, it wouldn't vary much.

So I guess the lowest common denominator as regards grumpiness and intolerance tends to be the most powerful influence because those are the consistent ‘reporters.’ Perhaps those doing the reporting should be banned if they report more than half a dozen times? Just a thought.

Wonder how long that little post will last ?

nanna8 I'm not 100% on what you're referring too, but my guess is that the other thread was deleted because people repeated the mistake of discussing the individuals involved again rather than the wider issue. Not mentioning posters names doesn't mean they're not being discussed. Plus, much as some are invested in the topic, many others will be bored to death by yet another thread and are likely to have reported it. But I see no harm in discussing the wider points - GN might see it differently.

Anyway, I'm in no way trying to resurrect that particular debate. But did want Fanny to see my answer, and as she is the OP here it seemed as good a place was any to post it.

NellG very interesting. I'm sure you're right too.

nanna8 Sorry, I'm being dense!

You make a good point, in my experience repeat reporting has to be looked at - and it's part of the moderating role. But... if the half dozen reports pertain to the same issue that moderation has already attempted to resolve, then it has to be decided who gets the sanction. That decision lies with the hosting organisation and can't be challenged as members agree to the terms and conditions when they sign up.

If a set of rules and guidelines exist, they must be followed through - a bit like a grievance procedure in a workplace.

Going to leave it there - because people will be tempted to post examples, which is what will get this thread deleted too.

NellG that is so interesting and enlightening.
Thank you so much for posting!

Can we have our thread back please or is it going to morph into yet another give us back our banned poster and ban anyone who reports? Pretty please. If people don’t like what HQ have done, then you are of course free to leave and join another forum - I believe the Over Fifties Forum is the pick of the month . Now where was I ? Oh yes. We seem to have moved on from cushions and socks and narrowly avoided a turn into the WW path. What now?

There’s a nice little potential argument about wood burners gearing up.

Personally I’d now like to argue about curtains.

(You can see I don’t get out much?)

I’d go with curtains- Is it better to have a curtain pole or a cord pull?
Wood burners-that could be hot stuff!

Pull cord is my preferred choice, gives the GC something to swing from ??

No, that’s the accoutrements of curtains. I’m talking about curtains themselves.

I think the trend of curtains that are too long and “pool” at the bottom is ridiculous.

It’s just people who are too lazy to turn their curtains up.

Curtains or no curtains? How do people in those houses with huge glass walls get undressed? Do they have to hide behind the enormous exotic pot plants? Or maybe they like an audience?

Peasblossom, My curtains ‘pool’ on the floor a bit. Yes I am too lazy to turn them up.

Our neighbours at the back are definitely the “all on show” brigade ?

I knew I was right!!!!!

(I always am)

Actually my dining room curtains pool too, for the same reason.

I just thought I’d start an argument.

In another room I have some curtains that I was not too lazy to turn up. They are a tiny bit too short. I am too lazy to let them down again.

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I am extremely lazy but don’t have curtains pooling or otherwise, just blinds, they don’t pool. Don’t like fussy interiors.

Watching something on telly last week, there was a "posh" house, and all the curtains in every room were the pooling at the bottom type. Those lazy poshos.

Why is lazy such a derogatory term? What’s wrong with lazy? I consider it an attribute.