Meghan and Harry. Has anyone changed their opinion post Oprah?

By Harry and Meghan not naming the individual accused of saying this, the whole family (bar the Queen and Prince Philip) will be under the cloud of suspicion. Would any of us like to be in that situation? This was a dreadful thing for M&H to do. Either name the individual or deal with it privately.

Lovetopaint037
It was not just a colour issue that Meghan had raised but that hers and Harry's children would not be titled prince /princess. What did she marry him for.?

Megan placed colour of skin third in her complaints, no title
came first

From what I understood, and she did mention that she knew that he was not due to be a prince from birth, Was the title allowed security. Because of the many death threats and security threats she wanted security for her son. In order to get that he needed a title.

Perhaps that’s all smoke and mirrors for she just wanted a title, but the interview she actually said the main issue is security

Let’s not forget, Andrew complained quite a lot about his children not getting security. I don’t recall people sliding him for that

Slating

Many agreed Andrew’s children shouldn’t have security.

I do Summerlove but it certainly didn't get the coverage and attention of this. They can afford their own security, but if they'd done the job and accepted that a thinned down RF comes with financial consequences they would have at least had some of the benefits of tax payers money.

Urmstongran I hope so.

On the matter of security I really don't see how they could continue as working royals without security for Archie. Suppose they udertook a tour like the Africa one. If they were doing a visit and Archie was left in the care of a nanny would security go with them and no one stay with him? What about shorter tours when he might be left at home- no security? It seems totally unreasonable to me.

Yes there have been several threads on security for Andrew's daughters as well as other members of the Royal Family.
I think opinions were much the same as they are now.

they lived in Windsor, there would have been security

The main conclusion I drew was that William was right and they should have waited longer. Given time they might have realised that they wanted to leave and saved the expense of the big wedding charade. Harry is going to be in a very bad place if this all goes wrong, he's lost his mother, is barely on speaking terms with his family and, if Meghan walked, he could lose his wife and children. Not a good outcome for someone who has had mental health problems. It's interesting that Meghan complains about people wondering how dark her baby's skin would be but seems to have been happy marrying someone who's idea of fun is dressing up as a Nazi.

The news is now reporting that William has emphatically denied that the Royal Family are racist when questioned during an official visit. He also said that he hadn’t spoken to Harry, but that he would be doing so.........that will be an interesting conversation. the Queen has said that she will be handling the situation, maybe she has first dibs. I wonder whether the Sussexes have an idea of the trouble they have caused in speaking ‘their truth’ or perhaps they felt it was worth it,

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56360671

Lexisgranny I'm not sure they care, if they do they haven't given any indication of it.

It should never have been made public IMO regardless of whether or not the person who made the comment was named.

This matter should have been dealt with privately, as it was a private conversation, at the time.

It ceased to become an issue Summerlove because PA paid for his D's security himself. There were a lot of complainers at the time but certainly didn't attract any where near the publicity that this has, but then again no one could have claimed it was a racist decision, even if they'd wanted too.

I'm not sure they care either Nell at the moment anyway but time will tell. As printed by the Washing Post this week "The dirt has been dished and the dish is now empty".

What else have they to offer? Not much. Their popularity has been based on H being a prince. All the hype which interestingly was far more vocal prior to the interview then it has been since, appeared to be on those hoping for some salacious gossip on the RF.

Second only to the pandemic, what is talked about by the media more than anything else is racism and mental health, and this 'interview' had both.

Gossip was what was dished out of course and as this weeks' progressed more holes appear to be forming in what they had to say.

For me, they represent something silver plated instead of solid silver. The more it's buffed and polished, the thinner the veneer becomes until what really lies beneath is revealed.

In my experience people don't tend to mind silver plate as long as it looks like the real thing, it's usually only when it can no longer pass for the real thing that they go off it.

I so agree with you Rosie, also I think it was a cowardly and bullying thing to do.

I think some of us may have friends or relatives who are married to ‘ controlling’ partners.‘
It seems to me that if a woman is in such a relationship she is believed & has avenues of help. When it is a man who is suffering from female controlling behaviour, he is left to get on with it & is ashamed or reluctant to divulge It or ask for help.
I think sadly Prince Harry , may well be or become one of those unfortunate men.

Wisdom to your usual high standard Smiles

Can Harry be believed ?

I think Annibach you mean, Will he be believed If he ever speaks about his relationship, that is what I am saying, men generally speaking , don’t speak out. obviously this is assuming that there is something to speak out about.

trisher

On the matter of security I really don't see how they could continue as working royals without security for Archie. Suppose they udertook a tour like the Africa one. If they were doing a visit and Archie was left in the care of a nanny would security go with them and no one stay with him? What about shorter tours when he might be left at home- no security? It seems totally unreasonable to me.

If they had continued as senior members of the RF Archie, as their child would have benefitted from the security provided to them. On tour he'd have been protected by the team protecting them, at home he'd have been protected by the team who protect the 'household'.

The only real issue here is that as an adult, without the title of Prince and an active role within the RF he wouldn't have paid for security provided. Had they stayed and Charles became king he would have had both the title and the security, but only if they'd stayed and not stepped back.

The security comes with the job, not the title. I think Meghan couldn't grasp this, and still can't. Which is the problem when you grow up with Walt Disney instead of the Windsors.

NellG, your last sentence made me smile.